Borgeson Power Steering Thoughts....

[RustyRatRod]

AH k.. i am 90% sure my headers will clear.. my manual box is 20:1 and it is so hard to turn it's insane.. my OEM challenger box was like butter.. no idea whats with this PST setup. Waiting for Bergman to email back so i can order a setup. Not gonna fight with a car rather than enjoy it

Mine are the Clifford shorties. If I ever need to adjust the box NOW, I'll have to remove them, because they block the adjustment screw. The power box is taller there so the screw would interfere with the headers, so I'd have to modify them. I've been thinking about going back to the manifold anyway, because believe it or not, not only can I really not tell much of a difference in power now that I've had them on a while, but I'm not really crazy about how they made the exhaust sound.

 

[Icetech]

Mine are the Clifford shorties. If I ever need to adjust the box NOW, I'll have to remove them, because they block the adjustment screw. The power box is taller there so the screw would interfere with the headers, so I'd have to modify them. I've been thinking about going back to the manifold anyway, because believe it or not, not only can I really not tell much of a difference in power now that I've had them on a while, but I'm not really crazy about how they made the exhaust sound.

Naw, i get the manifold thing... plus they will never rust out, little chance of a leak and more pleasant to drive.. i got my headers for $100 and had no manifolds, easy choice I had my factory PS box in with my headers so a borgeson should fit.. I have my stock box still but 100k miles on it, and sat for 46 years.. plus i need LA brackets/pump and ****, hoping bergman can just send me a bolt in kit. I can do the box by pulling the torsion bad and not header.. not sure which would be more work honestly.

 

[Darter6]

RUSTY, I would purchase those Cliffords if you decide to remove them. Let me know.

 

[Charrlie_S]

Rusty, I didn't read the complete thread, but. The 64 Valiant I just got has the Bergman auto craft quick ratio power steering setup. I don't have the car running yet, but can tell you a couple of things. It is almost impossible to turn the steering wheel while pushing the car by hand. Of course I am the original "98 lb weakling"
1: the Clifford shorties are very close to the steering box. In my case the car needs new rubber insulators, so that should help a little. Might have to shim the mounts up a little.
2: The inner steering shaft can be swapped. (Manual shaft in the column).
3: The lower end of the column (jacket) has a non factory seal/bearing I think part of the Bergman kit.
4: I will have to look at the car to remember what was used as a coupling.
5: a Saginaw pump was used.
6: has what looks to be a stock later model fluid cooler
Car is in a storage facility right now, so will be awhile before I can look at it. The previous owner was setting the car up for auto crossing. It has 1 inch torsion bars, about a 1 1/2 inch sway bar, edelbrock shocks, and 11 3/4 front disc brakes