Electric guitar...

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1st I figured out what my goals are, do you want to be able to play in a band and or jam with friends ? singer songwriter? accompany yourself and or singer ? play at a campfire type thing or just learn your favorite licks riffs and solos most fall under the last but would have problem doing any of the others.

So each one would take a different approach on what you need to know and practice.

I'd would also get a drum pad and sticks and learn the basic drum rudiments with a metronome rhythm and counting helps so much this will help your playing a ton.
 
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1st I figured out what my goals are, do you want to be able to play in a band and or jam with friends ? singer songwriter? accompany yourself and or singer ? play at a campfire type thing or just learn your favorite licks riffs and solos most fall under the last but would have problem doing any of the others.

So each one would take a different approach on what you need to know and practice.

I'd would also get a drum pad and sticks and learn the basic drum rudiments with a metronome rhythm and counting helps so much this will help your playing a ton.
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Kind of like a kid going to college you start studying for one thing but life changes and it becomes something completely different..
At my age I probably missed my window for playing in a band and certainly no one wants to hear me sing I'm sure of that not even me...
I think like you said the ladder just play my favorite rifts and solos and start puzzling it all together at that point into songs and so forth... When I see people doing looping and stuff like that and playing along to their own pre-made rhythm I kind of like that as well...
I'd like to practice for 2 to 4 years just kind of getting comfortable with the guitar and then see where it goes from there...
 
Most guitar parts in songs are multiple guitars, and when playing a riff my wife always said it didn't sound like the song and I would tell her that's only one guitar part, then I purchased this pedal and I can play 2 parts, record one and then play along with myself, they make better ones than this, some even have drum machines, but I just kept it simple. It's the red looper pedal on the left side, you can keep playing and adding other guitar parts with yourself!

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Mopar-Mitch said:
Most guitar parts in songs are multiple guitars, and when playing a riff my wife always said it didn't sound like the song and I would tell her that's only one guitar part, then I purchased this pedal and I can play 2 parts, record one and then play along with myself, they make better ones than this, some even have drum machines, but I just kept it simple. It's the red looper pedal on the left side, you can keep playing and adding other guitar parts with yourself!

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I don't know how far back I posted it but I got this fender mustang GTX 50 amp and the seven button pedal block. Again I'm only 2 weeks into it and trying to learn how to play some chords on the guitar so I'm sure I have plenty to learn about this setup and how to make it loop and other things like that... I've got to get my first year or two under my belt so I can start building on fundamentals..
 
If your looking just to start with riff and stuff this guy is good for that, he teaches the basic rock guitar theory and leaves out the **** you don't really need.

Plus there's a lot of jam tracks on youtube that you can play along with once you gots some basics down.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXBvTXqnNFsaNccQon-2gfg/videos












https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-fV6o2Rm68

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c03NeB1vWN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZI4dqOw1I8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCBnENqagEU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wFKLR3GwJ4

https://www.youtube.com/c/Hpcrazy/search?query=embellishments
 
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I'm tellin' ya....

That whole JP "British Steel" album is a GREAT lesson in timing and the basics of song structure.

IMO, you could remove "Breaking The Law" and "Living After Midnight" and it would still be a GREAT album.

Also interestingly-

That riff to 7 Nation Army.....I came up with on my own around 1986.
It's a fairly natural progression for someone to try that's starting to get a feel for the spacing of chords that work or kind of work together. At the time I rejected it as a riff to build a song around because I thought it was too simplistic and borderline not sonically pleasing enough.

The first time I heard that on the radio, I 'bout ****, though.

I was also working with a riiff back then that was incredibly similar if not identical to Volbeat's "Warrior". That one I developed and had about 2/3 of a song built around it.

When I first heard Volbeat I immediately liked it, but it took until I tried to play it for me to realize why.....because I F'n wrote it...

That's a very odd feeling.
 
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There I was completely wasting, out of work and down
All inside it's so frustrating as I drift from town to town
Feel as though nobody cares if I live or die
So I might as well begin to put some action in my life
You know what it's called!!??...
 
Also notice Breaking the Law.......doesn't have a lead solo!

Instead it's got a rhythm break and sirens.

...and Livin' After Midnight has an excellent "first" lead solo to try for a beginner.

Very basic, but fitting for the song.
 
I've discovered that some songs I learned to play as a teenager were played wrong because we learned them by ear back then. Nowadays with the internet and all the available tabs you can learn songs the right way. I'm learning more now than I ever did back then and its ashame because of age and arthritis now it limits me, It sure would've been great to have all the access to music like today when I was young!
 
Yes, and some of the tabs are just wrong too.

Been that way forever.

Seeing where someone's fingers are, especially the original artist, is priceless.
 
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That's Richie Faulkner and Andy Sneap (in lieu of KK Downing and Glenn Tipton).

Being a hard core JP fan since 1982, I have mixed feelings about that situation.

I've seen them something like 11-12 times since then including:

1st tour with Scott Travis
1st tour with Tim Owens
1st tour with Rob back
Last tour with KK
1st tour with Faulkner (and apparently one of the last with Glenn)

I don't think I'm too crazy about Sneap, although I haven't heard him play Glenn's parts, but I will say Falkner played KK's parts in a very faithful and respectful way.

The only time I ever saw them give less than 120% was the last tour with KK where there was some slop and Rob was obviously winded for most of the show and even left the stage for an extended period of time when he should have been singing. He even appeared to struggle with the motorcycle.

Given that, I can understand KK's frame of mind at the time and his decision to retire.

Further research reveals that they played 279 shows that year.
That's crazy. Let alone for guys most of whom were 60 or older.
 
J par.....Go for it and have fun, its never to late to try what you always wanted to do. You may not ever to get to the level of being some of the gifted players but you'll have accomplished something and feel good about it
I guy im friendly with is a retired professional musician who had success in a group popular in the nineties He was featured on the cover of Guitar World magazine and has had articles written about him.
He told me Roy Clark was his idol and he also knew the late great Eddy Van Halen who instructed him on some different methods of playing
He had natural ability at a very young age and playing guitar was his life ambition, he told me it was not uncommon for him to play all day and into the night.
He enjoys playing Spanish guitar and
while talking to me he told me Charo is a terrific guitar player, I never knew that and after listening to her, she is awesome
Good luck and enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
YY1 said:
Also notice Breaking the Law.......doesn't have a lead solo!

Instead it's got a rhythm break and sirens.

...and Livin' After Midnight has an excellent "first" lead solo to try for a beginner.

Very basic, but fitting for the song.
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Funny part is the young girl that I watched on you boob teach the song she goes "now that parts really easy!"
:mob: I'm thinking.. says you!!..
 
Most people I've seen play the LAM solo wrong.

Hell even JP plays a WAY longer and fancier solo live.

Most people seem to want to add a couple notes and almost no one gets the artificial (pinch) harmonic bend right.

It's not terribly difficult and it's a great lesson in what notes work over the rhythm as well as bending and the aforementioned pinch harmonics.

That pinch harmonic bend is a good tool to have.

Not super difficult and can add LOTS of feeling and expression.
 
YY1 said:
Most people I've seen play the LAM solo wrong.

Hell even JP plays a WAY longer and fancier solo live.

Most people seem to want to add a couple notes and almost no one gets the artificial (pinch) harmonic bend right.

It's not terribly difficult and it's a great lesson in what notes work over the rhythm as well as bending and the aforementioned pinch harmonics.

That pinch harmonic bend is a good tool to have.

Not super difficult and can add LOTS of feeling and expression.
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Just getting my fingers close at the right time is job enough right now... I'll try bending them when I can get them to consistently hold the cords correct on time .:thumbsup:...
I'm only 3 and a half weeks holding a guitar...
 
After missing my very first day last Friday of practice or at least picking up the guitar for 15 minutes or an hour depending we were able to get our third bedroom which has been a catch-all storage unit for the last few years cleaned up.. now I have a guitar room and the other half is for my wife to do whatever she wants. .
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After missing my very first day last Friday of practice or at least picking up the guitar for 15 minutes or an hour depending we were able to get our third bedroom which has been a catch-all storage unit for the last few years cleaned up.. now I have a guitar room and the other half is for my wife to do whatever she wants. .
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nice pad, man, I think it’s groooovy! That’s a great idea too, have a cool space to practice. When I was woodshedding, I was banished to our bedroom, the only place in the house not to be disturbed or disturb others. I had to sit on the edge of the bed, not exactly conducive to a comfy practice scenario.
 
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