Looking at a Trans for Victoria need input.

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Well folks, I have new parts for a new 225/ build and I think/know it will be best to spend my monies on the 70 and up /6 engine build and be farther down the road, I will keep on shifting and keep moving forward on my new better 225 with a nice bump stick and then go from there one day, I seen the trans for sale and it is a great deal just 200 miles away and he was going to though in the drive shaft and a supper deal on the rear end, but it's just
not going to happen, my 170 is still running strong, I just need to locat me (closs by) a newer model 225/6 and get to building .. I got an email from a great member asking if I wanted to go V8 and he would make it easy on me getting parts here but I am keeping her a /6 car.. I have some good parts waiting on a short block here on the hill already :thumleft:
 
Hell, just raise the pivot point of the pedal and extend the pedal arm. Longer arm ,more leverage, less effort to push it.
 
daredevil said:
Hell, just raise the pivot point of the pedal and extend the pedal arm. Longer arm ,more leverage, less effort to push it.
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Hell, I like it where it is :D :butthead: :toothy10:
 
robertob said:
I am not sure you can do it for this particular conversion. There are internal differences on the converters that make it hard to go this way (or so I have been told). I have had a converter shop go the other way (welding a late front to an early back).
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You would need a Dacco 962-S convertor or an equivalent convertor. It is designed to use the with the 68 up transmission TF904 and the 1.550" pilot bushing used on the 1960 thru 1967 small block. This is in the 2012 Dacco catalog.
 
your brave Mr. Memike giving up your manual .......even if they had to make me half robot half girl, im never giving up my clutch pedal and shifter LOL

best wishes with whatever you decide is best for YOU.....and if i can with any parts....can do.:mrgreen:
 
mike,,how soon you need a trans,,,my 66 valiant has a 904 behind a 225...i'm going 4 speed next spring,,and the trans would be free and I have a shipper I use and would help ya with the ride,,,let me know,,,bob
 
If I was going to this extent...I'd go V8 too. :) I'd love to have a rumbling V8 in my Vert. I like my /6 but just like the sound of a V8. Course like anything one thing leads to another....need a 8 1/4..a 7 1/4 will last till it blows I had a 7 1/4 behind my 318 in my 72.
 
TexasDart said:
If I was going to this extent...I'd go V8 too. :) I'd love to have a rumbling V8 in my Vert. I like my /6 but just like the sound of a V8. Course like anything one thing leads to another....need a 8 1/4..a 7 1/4 will last till it blows I had a 7 1/4 behind my 318 in my 72.
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If Memike were to swap a V8 in, alot more would need to be done, V8 center link, bigger torsion bars and brakes, rear axle, radiator....it's easier and cheaper to swap in the auto, Mike likes his little slanty engine....don't think he would ever go V8 in Victoria :glasses7:
 
superdart426 said:
mike,,how soon you need a trans,,,my 66 valiant has a 904 behind a 225...i'm going 4 speed next spring,,and the trans would be free and I have a shipper I use and would help ya with the ride,,,let me know,,,bob
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So all the 66 /6 engines have the same crank snout even on the 170/ Bob ?
No hurry here and thank you for the offer, we may do something in the spring :D

RaniDart70 said:
your brave Mr. Memike giving up your manual .......even if they had to make me half robot half girl, im never giving up my clutch pedal and shifter LOL

best wishes with whatever you decide is best for YOU.....and if i can with any parts....can do.:mrgreen:
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Thank you Miss Rani, I feel the same :glasses7: But I climbed to many ladders starting in 1966........... wow I never thought about this before!!
when Victoria was being built I was feeding the folks that built her :D
Thank you, I will hold you to that Rani, and thank you :colors:
 
There is adapter for early trans and later engine/crank. None for what this thread is about. The needed torque converter can be had from any shop that rebuilds them.
Might cost 150 bones exchange.
 
RedFish said:
There is adapter for early trans and later engine/crank. None for what this thread is about. The needed torque converter can be had from any shop that rebuilds them.
Might cost 150 bones exchange.
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I have allot to learn RedFish, I will make a couple phone calls and see if we have any shops that half way knows what I am needing.. I am getting out for the evening and get back to your wisdom later :cheers:
So I still have hope RedFish :cheers:
 
Good thing you didn't move forward with the later trans swap. The early crank will not fit a later transmission, because of the torque converter's nose being too large. I just went through this with my engine, since although it was a later engine, it had an early crank. I had to get a custom torque converter built by Hughes Performance and also needed the early flexplate.

I'm not 100% sure but I think the crank on a slant setup for manual transmissions may be different than one from an automatic. Though it may just be that there's an insert that just needs taken out. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Otateral said:
I'm not 100% sure but I think the crank on a slant setup for manual transmissions may be different than one from an automatic. Though it may just be that there's an insert that just needs taken out. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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I don't personally know, but I recall reading that the hole in the crank is different in manual cars. As I recall, it is the same diameter, but deeper since a bearing sits in there for the clutch. Sorry, I know little about manual trannys. If true, a "too deep" hole shouldn't be a problem.

I have also read that if you change both the torque converter and the input shaft to ones from an earlier tranny (67- ?), it will work with the early engines. I wouldn't put a used tranny in a car without rebuilding it first anyway. I read people talk of having the snout of a later tranny machined down to fit, but worry if there is enough metal. Is the snout hollow or solid?
 
In theory... With the right tool mounted in a plunge router and the router properly mounted to the back of the engine block, the crank could be reshaped while still under the car.
My imagination sings no body left to run with anymore.
 
Mike, PM slantsixdan. He will tell you which parts to use.
 
RustyRatRod said:
Mike, PM slantsixdan. He will tell you which parts to use.
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You can count on that, for now I am going to stay realistic and enjoy my 3 on the tree, I am going outside in a few minutes and do a complete check up and service on her, oil change, grease, and put my eyes on the shifting linkage and grease everything down again, it's nice out side today and I will be ready for the track to redeem myself tomorrow :burnout:
Again :glasses7: Let me say thank's to all the great tech's here that sure saved me Time/Money/and hart break :D.. You all :rock:
 
memike said:
Treva and I and my doc has been talking about not dring Victoria with my ankle/feet problems I have been having, Arthur is taking a tole on them and they want me in Texas to do some work on them when I can,
My tail shaft does not have the right tail shaft to put a good floor shifter in, no braket to mount one, Creed did say he can put a hydraulic through out bearing in it but my shoulders are being taken over by Arthur also, I will enjoy a automatic and like Johnny Dart and a few here I to hate to remove the three on the tree Victoria was born with..
The trans is here http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=239197
And I was thinking the T.C he has will work for my swao from a 66 3speed to an automatic , or am I missing something ? He said I van have the drive shaft also, so if there is a defiance I can have one or the other cut down if need be from a 70 Dart to a 66 Valiant.. I am waiting to be put on my wife insurance to make the trip to Texas to have a specialist clean scrap my ankles so I get some relief, So, with all you see here do I need a different T.C. .. or will this be a bolt in and happy motoring ??? Thank you all for your thoughts but I feel it's time for an automatic cruiser :glasses7:
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Mike if it comes down to it let me know I have a good 904 trans and converter that came out of my 66 if you want to go back with year correct stuff, I'm about to chunk it in the trash cause nobody seems to want it
 
robertob said:
More bad news - to make it work properly you will need a transmission from ONLY a 1966-67 Dart or Valiant or Barracuda. The spline and crank issues rule out a 1968 or newer transmission or converter. The slip-joint driveshaft that your car has rules out a '65 or older transmission. Those were also cable-shifted.
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If you are going to use a 65 style floor shifter, you need the 64 or 65 cable shift auto transmission.


In 66 they went to the rod linkage style.
 
Going to automatic means changing the shift linkage regardless so... auto on column or on floor means additional parts required. Lets not forget the auto trans cooling. doesn't mean you need a radiator though. There's lots of ways to go from manual to automatic.
How I got rid of the last manual trans I owned was trading vehicles. LOL
 
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