Roadrunner or Not

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Hey DDodger

So happy for that the owners of that gorgeous Cuda were able to retrieve it. At least I have a clean, clear title and a clean NMVTIS report. At least I'm not as stupid as the guy who "bought" the car without a title or worse yet, stole it!
 
Nice! Thanks so much.

Given that I don't want your sympathy, your comment is about as useless as my RR right now.
 
Awwww man, I'm crying over that loss. So sorry Mopar Tim!

Hope I don't end up losing this one.
 
Thanks for the useful info, Barbee6043. Yep, cops tends to get my heart rate up also and two of my relatives are cops. Hmmmm, maybe that's why I'm scared of them.
 
Clhyer

Hah, 1 of 1. Wouldn't that be fun :) Love looking at the glass half full.

I'm thinking I have a stolen whiskey runner owned by those three whiskey runner brothers from Louisiana that were depicted in the movie "Lawless". Now wouldn't that make a story!
 
You never say never with most Mopars but to have a 1968 RR with a 318 goes against their entire advertising campaign of a cheap car with a big motor. I believe your VIN RM23F8R245761 was fabricated by someone. The VIN should also not appear on the core support & even when it did on later cars it was incomplete, it would have the plant & year along with the sequence #. Someone must have put that number there, a pic might help.

Sorry for your health issues Diana.
 
Diana's Dart said:
Thanks Mad Dart

No problem registering, inspecting or insuring it. Weird, huh! Guess they do things differently in Texas.
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Wouldn't be an issue to register in jersey either as long as the title was clean. They don't look at the car during the registration process.
 
Diana, sorry to hear about your struggles. My prayers are with you and your family.

The trunk lip VIN you can use a piece of paper over it from under and with a pencil get a rub of it. It should show you enough to confirm or deny.



Diana's Dart said:
Thanks 72bluNblu - I'm hoping for the best. The title VIN and the VIN on the radiator casing match. I can't read the VIN in the trunk and after about 15 minutes in the situp position, hurt the gut muscles for a few days afterward. This 50+ age is catching up to me.
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396 Signet said:
You never say never with most Mopars but to have a 1968 RR with a 318 goes against their entire advertising campaign of a cheap car with a big motor. I believe your VIN RM23F8R245761 was fabricated by someone. The VIN should also not appear on the core support & even when it did on later cars it was incomplete, it would have the plant & year along with the sequence #. Someone must have put that number there, a pic might help.

Sorry for your health issues Diana.
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This.

The reason that your title is clear is because the Vin is likely fabricated, and as I said earlier there is nothing tying your clear title to the car.....other than a stamping, which anyone could do, and is not there on any other 68 Chrysler product. The missing Vin tag, fender tag and stamped Vin where it should not be are huge red flags.

Did Chrysler do strange things? Sure, there is the odd car painted a color that wasn't advertised, but they built millions of cars, and there are far to many strange things about yours.

We would love to see a picture of the stamping.

My prayers and thoughts are sent your way.
 
Will get some more info off the stamping and trunk lid this weekend and get back to you guys.

Thanks for the help and well wishes.

Diana
 
Did they even build B bodies in windsor for the 68 model year? C bodies yes, A bodies, yes

68 -70 RR's were only built at Lynch Road (A), St. Louis (G) and LA (E)

RM23F8R245761

A car, built at a factory that didn't produce them, was special ordered with a 318... OK.

The VIN on that car is totally fabricated. If the trunk and radiator stampings match the vin, it's a fabricated vin number. It's a fabbed vin based on a B body coming from windsor alone!
 
the vin number is obviously fabricated .....318 in a road runner in 68 ...not

but at this point who really cares ....if your going to keep it and enjoy the car for what is then get it registered and best wishes on your open road adventures and memories.
 
Well, not news to some, but satellite and belvedere models only came with either RL or RH prefixes! Only roadrunner, and in 1970, superbirds came with the RM prefix! Also, just for the record, in 68 the "F" was 318!! Geof
 
Here's what one of the old timers who has owned a number of mopars ever since he bought (one of which is a 65 Cuda) said about some differences in cars he's seen that came out of the Canadian plant:

"In 1956 the Plant produced a Plymouth with a 303 cube and it took the stock production car speed record at around 126 mph. Only the Plymouth's produced in Canada had that engine. There also was some difference in some of the flat head 6 cyl produced in the late 40 s,but don't remember just what the differences were. Watch for those forums as they all think that they are experts.

Just remembered about the 66 Charger that had a factory 318 c i in it and was told that it came from Canada also.The 318 was not supposed to be in it according to some but I saw one."
 
RaniDart70 said:
the vin number is obviously fabricated .....318 in a road runner in 68 ...not

but at this point who really cares ....if your going to keep it and enjoy the car for what is then get it registered and best wishes on your open road adventures and memories.
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truth....





Diana, if you select the "quote" button in the lower right hand corner of someones post you can reply to them personally :D


Diana's Dart said:
Just remembered about the 66 Charger that had a factory 318 c i in it and was told that it came from Canada also.The 318 was not supposed to be in it according to some but I saw one."
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the poly head 318 could be had in 66 chargers, coronets, trucks etc etc
 
Who knows what the car is..... but your title and VIN number are fake.......I bet theres a real good reason too!
 
Diana's Dart said:
Here's what one of the old timers who has owned a number of mopars ever since he bought (one of which is a 65 Cuda) said about some differences in cars he's seen that came out of the Canadian plant:

"In 1956 the Plant produced a Plymouth with a 303 cube and it took the stock production car speed record at around 126 mph. Only the Plymouth's produced in Canada had that engine. There also was some difference in some of the flat head 6 cyl produced in the late 40 s,but don't remember just what the differences were. Watch for those forums as they all think that they are experts.

Just remembered about the 66 Charger that had a factory 318 c i in it and was told that it came from Canada also.The 318 was not supposed to be in it according to some but I saw one."
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There were lots of differences in Canadian Mopars, but that was all before 1966, when the "AutoPact" was introduced, and all Mopars, south OR north of the border became the same, including engines, VIN numbering, etc.

Check out this page, if you're interested, and have some spare time(it's a bit involved)...

http://www.allpar.com/world/canada.html

This page is Valiant-specific, but does illustrate the differences between CDN and USA that were available before 1966....

http://www.valiant.org/canada.html

BTW, your car is great, no matter what it turns out to be.
 
The guys giving you advice on this thread are not just "some guys on a forum".

They know their stuff. This bunch is the most knowledgeable I have ever seen. You're being given good information. Don't brush it off. That would be a mistake.
 
RustyRatRod said:
The guys giving you advice on this thread are not just "some guys on a forum".

They know their stuff. This bunch is the most knowledgeable I have ever seen. You're being given good information. Don't brush it off. That would be a mistake.
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I always enjoy the old timers and the stories about the 383 hemi, dual quad, dana 60, 5 speed, factory equipped 64 valiant 4 door! Ran 6.80's of the showroom floor. :)

This is something that needs to be raised... :bs:

Or this device.

It sucks, but, Caveat Emptor
 
RustyRatRod said:
The guys giving you advice on this thread are not just "some guys on a forum".

They know their stuff. This bunch is the most knowledgeable I have ever seen. You're being given good information. Don't brush it off. That would be a mistake.
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Post 170 & 171 , ring truth. I have done automotive most of my life, the talent here( when asked ) , blows my mind, daily.
 
crackedback said:
Did they even build B bodies in windsor for the 68 model year? C bodies yes, A bodies, yes

68 -70 RR's were only built at Lynch Road (A), St. Louis (G) and LA (E)

RM23F8R245761

A car, built at a factory that didn't produce them, was special ordered with a 318... OK.

The VIN on that car is totally fabricated. If the trunk and radiator stampings match the vin, it's a fabricated vin number. It's a fabbed vin based on a B body coming from windsor alone!
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Ding,Ding,Ding...we have a winner.

Someone got creative with a stamp kit and likely a fabricated/altered title from another state and got semi legit paperwork for a (possibly) stolen or (perhaps) rebuilt or salvaged car.

If the guy doing this had any brains then he should have used the 383 engine code (H) along with an actual B-body plant code (A,G,E) to avoid raising any more red flags then a car with no VIN tag already would.
Trying to pass off a car with no VIN tag as some sort of factory special build with a motor never offered from a plant that never built B-bodies is something a Chevy guy would do.
 
I would be most worried about WHY they did it. I am betting the car was stolen and stripped at one point. That would be the only reason I could think of.

Either that or someone went to a LOT of trouble to try and fake a never built road runner. That would be kinda stupid.
 
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