Is the flywheel on a 170 the same as a 225? Thanks in advance!!
YesIs the flywheel on a 170 the same as a 225? Thanks in advance!!
Maybe. depends on the year of the engines. Up to 1967 both are the same as each other. 68 and later both are the same as each other. but different than the 67 down. Only difference is the size of the center holeIs the flywheel on a 170 the same as a 225? Thanks in advance!!
Because the crank flange of the 68 and later is larger in diameter than those of the 67 and earlier. The flywheel bolt pattern is the same, but the center flange around which the flywheel sits is smaller on the early cranks, larger on the later. So the later flywheels have a larger center hole than the early ones.Maybe. depends on the year of the engines. Up to 1967 both are the same as each other. 68 and later both are the same as each other. but different than the 67 down. Only difference is the size of the center hole
So I pulled the engine and transmission from my 63 Dart and have an engine from a 64 that I’ll be using. I don’t know what year the motor is. I’m assuming it’s a 60s era motor. I measured the flange on the back of the crank 1.9625. I drove the 64 before I pulled it apart. Motor is real Pepe but I’m sure nowhere near 400 hp. I want to put a four speed in, but I don’t think that I can use my three speed bill housing, correct me if I’m wrong. I’d like to buy one of the older A-833 transmissions, but I guess they’re kind of rare. From what I’ve been reading the A-833 OD trans has basically same ratios as a 3 speed with overdrive 4th gear, and they don’t shift as quick as the non overdrive trans. Don’t think I need a clutch that beefy but I’m sure I could be wrong. This car will be a rat, driver, as low buck as I can get it but no junk under the hood………car.Since you are local, if you are needing a new flywheel/clutch.
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You can blow up a parts store clutch with stock HP level. If you end up buying a flywheel and new clutch you’ll be a few hundred even with the stock replacements.So I pulled the engine and transmission from my 63 Dart and have an engine from a 64 that I’ll be using. I don’t know what year the motor is. I’m assuming it’s a 60s era motor. I measured the flange on the back of the crank 1.9625. I drove the 64 before I pulled it apart. Motor is real Pepe but I’m sure nowhere near 400 hp. I want to put a four speed in, but I don’t think that I can use my three speed bill housing, correct me if I’m wrong. I’d like to buy one of the older A-833 transmissions, but I guess they’re kind of rare. From what I’ve been reading the A-833 OD trans has basically same ratios as a 3 speed with overdrive 4th gear, and they don’t shift as quick as the non overdrive trans. Don’t think I need a clutch that beefy but I’m sure I could be wrong. This car will be a rat, driver, as low buck as I can get it but no junk under the hood………car.
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Since you have both engines, just measure the crank flange diameter to see if they're the same. Check to see if the crank you will be using has been machined for a pilot bushing, or you will either have to machine the pilot hole to the correct diameter, or, get a pilot BEARING that fits in the converter register hole. Both sizes are available once you find out which crank you have. Yes, you need a 4 speed bell housing....one that matches the car, and also the transmission front bearing retainer unless you want to do some machining and clutch linkage work. If you have a clutch rebuilder up there in Sacto, have them build one a bit heavier duty than the stock one....maybe build your old one with more or heavier springs. Don't get too carried away though, or, you'll have to beef up the Z-bar and the rest of the linkage. I'm surprised you find the '64-5 833 transmissions hard to find. I used to have a hard time selling them except to some that just wanted the low gear set in them. When I closed the shop, I think 3-4 of them went over the scales as I couldn't find a buyer. Everyone wanted the slip yoke type.So I pulled the engine and transmission from my 63 Dart and have an engine from a 64 that I’ll be using. I don’t know what year the motor is. I’m assuming it’s a 60s era motor. I measured the flange on the back of the crank 1.9625. I drove the 64 before I pulled it apart. Motor is real Pepe but I’m sure nowhere near 400 hp. I want to put a four speed in, but I don’t think that I can use my three speed bill housing, correct me if I’m wrong. I’d like to buy one of the older A-833 transmissions, but I guess they’re kind of rare. From what I’ve been reading the A-833 OD trans has basically same ratios as a 3 speed with overdrive 4th gear, and they don’t shift as quick as the non overdrive trans. Don’t think I need a clutch that beefy but I’m sure I could be wrong. This car will be a rat, driver, as low buck as I can get it but no junk under the hood………car.
Hopefully, I can use the flywheel that I have. I’m interested in the bell housing.You can blow up a parts store clutch with stock HP level. If you end up buying a flywheel and new clutch you’ll be a few hundred even with the stock replacements. I also have the 63-66 4 speed bell.
I’d like to buy one of the older A-833 transmissions, but I guess they’re kind of rare.
So the 170 still has the transmission connected to the engine I’ll be taking that apart in the next week and can compare the pilot shaft holes that is. Midnight swinger has a bell housing and won’t be using the Z bar, have to go with a hydraulic clutch of some type headers are in the way. I haven’t really tried to locate a transmission yet so I don’t know if they’re hard to find or not, I just thought they were. Is there a draw back to ball and trunion drive shaft, vers slip yoke? I have the stock shaft from the 63 and the one I got with the 64.Since you have both engines, just measure the crank flange diameter to see if they're the same. Check to see if the crank you will be using has been machined for a pilot bushing, or you will either have to machine the pilot hole to the correct diameter, or, get a pilot BEARING that fits in the converter register hole. Both sizes are available once you find out which crank you have. Yes, you need a 4 speed bell housing....one that matches the car, and also the transmission front bearing retainer unless you want to do some machining and clutch linkage work. If you have a clutch rebuilder up there in Sacto, have them build one a bit heavier duty than the stock one....maybe build your old one with more or heavier springs. Don't get too carried away though, or, you'll have to beef up the Z-bar and the rest of the linkage. I'm surprised you find the '64-5 833 transmissions hard to find. I used to have a hard time selling them except to some that just wanted the low gear set in them. When I closed the shop, I think 3-4 of them went over the scales as I couldn't find a buyer. Everyone wanted the slip yoke type.
After I took the pic and sent the post, I realize that was the case.How about a better picture of driveshaft on the left? It looks like a hybrid ball-and-trunion to slip yoke conversion. If so that's a sweet deal. We need to see higher up on the shaft, above what's shown here.
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straight aces. that's for B&T and already converted to a slip yoke. gold baby, gold.
straight aces. that's for B&T and already converted to a slip yoke. gold baby, gold.
Here is the bellhousing, and I have the z bar and ball stud, and it will work with the Clifford shortys.
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So those are Clifford headers I didn’t think they would clear the Z-bar. I was looking at hydraulic clutch set upsHere is the bellhousing, and I have the z bar and ball stud, and it will work with the Clifford shortys.
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Yep, Clifford shortys clear the z bar.So those are Clifford headers I didn’t think they would clear the Z-bar. I was looking at hydraulic clutch set ups
You did nothing wrong. You were just asking questions. The members offering to sell you a bellhousing should know better. Like I said, this isn't a parts wanted thread.What are we doing wrong? I’m a newbie.
Yes, scroll down and see the sale and wanted forums. Here's the Parts Wanted forum you need. Cars and Mopar Parts WantedI didn’t realize there was a Parts who wanted thread I’ve seen the parts for sale threads anyway still learning
Can you please tell me how to p.m. I did one yesterday can’t figure out how to do it again thanksYou did nothing wrong. You were just asking questions. The members offering to sell you a bellhousing should know better. Like I said, this isn't a parts wanted thread.
Click on the members name below their avatar photo and then "Start Conversation"Can you please tell me how to p.m. I did one yesterday can’t figure out how to do it again thanks