lilfontleroy
annoyinglilLeroy
ok, @diymirage said something in a thread that made me wonder about the definition of a muscle car.. top speed? quarter mile time? power to weight ratio? options or lack of? price?
The lightest possible street legal body with the largest engine that fits between the rails.
The lightest possible street legal body with the largest engine that fits between the rails.
so power to weight.. post 2 and the usual suspects/definition in post 3.. but I can afford what I want (affordable price is a subjective thing) and it makes 707HP and will eat most 60's and 70's cars for lunch, plus I can start it from indoors, sit in it for hours on end comfortably and not have to stop at nearly every gas station between here and Timbuctoo ~~ is it not a muscle car? Why can't an all wheel drive car be a muscle car? Why can't it be comfortable and "easy" to drive? Think evolution and even one up man ship.Definition[edit]
The definition of muscle car is subjective and frequently debated.[3][4] Muscle cars often have many of the following characteristics:[3][5][6][7][8][9][10]
High-power pony cars are sometimes considered muscle cars, however personal luxury cars are often too expensive to be considered muscle cars.[3] Sports cars and sports sedans are not usually considered muscle cars, since they are generally associated with circuit racing rather than drag racing.[12] Muscle cars are an extension of the hot rodding philosophy of taking a small car and putting a large-displacement engine in it, for the purpose of increased straight-line speed.[12]
- A large V8 engine in the most powerful configuration offered for a particular model
- Rear-wheel drive
- Being manufactured in the United States in the 1960s or early 1970s (the specific year range of 1964–1973 is sometimes used)[5]
- A relatively lightweight two-door body (opinions vary as to whether high-performance full-size cars, compacts, and pony cars qualify as muscle cars,[11] as it is sometimes claimed that only intermediate cars can be considered muscle cars)[3][5]
- An affordable price
- Being designed for straight-line drag racing, while remaining street legal.
In that case, none of the 340 A bodies were muscle cars, since a big block can fit in any of them 67 and up.
YepCamaros and Mustangs were considered pony cars weren’t they?
Camaros and Mustangs were considered pony cars weren’t they?
The way I always defined it, is a car with no options other then big engine and heavy duty drive train
No AC, powesteering or heated mirror
Manual windows
Thank kind of stuff...basically a road runner
I would just boil it down to the basics: A car built to exceed normal production performance standards, especially in a straight line...
I would just boil it down to the basics: A car built to exceed normal production performance standards, especially in a straight line...
I would consider it a luxury carThen where does the GTX fit in? It was a luxury muscle car. You could get them slap loaded.
midsize performance cars..gto, chevelle,road runner, skylark, olds cutlass, charger etc. Muscle carsYou think a 428 SCJ Mustang or a 427 COPO Camaro were pony cars?
I bet Chevy was pissed that somebody grouped their Camaro as a pony car that came from the Mustang (horse, pony)You think a 428 SCJ Mustang or a 427 COPO Camaro were pony cars?