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Sublime one said:
I was one of the early supporters of Dillion reloading equipment. Not because of any science or intelligence I was simply a young competitive shooter and could not afford anything else. They had/do have great customer service. My first Blue press the head was not removable and you had to spin the RCBS lock rings on your lathe to get them to fit with each other. Changeovers were a total PITA, circa 79 maybe? Wish I still had that press, it was cutting edge at the time, very innovative.
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Ever played around with one of the Lee Precision Reloaders for .308?
 
Anyone wanna guess what it just cost me to ship an a distributor gear and shaft a whopping 175 miles away?
 
Sublime one said:
I was one of the early supporters of Dillion reloading equipment. Not because of any science or intelligence I was simply a young competitive shooter and could not afford anything else. They had/do have great customer service. My first Blue press the head was not removable and you had to spin the RCBS lock rings on your lathe to get them to fit with each other. Changeovers were a total PITA, circa 79 maybe? Wish I still had that press, it was cutting edge at the time, very innovative.
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I don't know if I'd ever get into it or not. Only so many things a person can do. Never mind do well.
I do pay attention because sometimes they compare with commercial and also to understand the mechanics.

Also because the carbine development was done a bit on the fly, there was a change in ammo early in production. It involved a very slight change in the case taper and an increase in velocity. Unfortunately the full details are not really accessible as you would think. Even simple things like velocity distance from muzzle. It looks like the Army may have been measuring out at 50' not close in as one might expect.

Right now there are five threads about reloading on the Carbine Collector forum page.
Safety/ Accuracy/Shooting/Ammunition/Care and Maintenance - The Carbine Collector's Club - Page 1

And over in CMP forum, there is a long thread bookmarked that people still add to. CMP Help: Stock Cleaning, Ammo, Mag ID & Accuracy - Page 3 - CMP Forums

Considering the limited range of allowances available for this cartridge, one would have thought this was all very cut and dry. Clearly not!
 
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Mattax said:
I don't know if I'd ever get into it or not. Only so many things a person can do. Never mind do well.
I do pay attention because sometimes they compare with commercial and also to understand the mechanics.

Also because the carbine development was done a bit on the fly, there was a change in ammo early in production. It involved a very slight change in the case taper and an increase in velocity. Unfortunately the full details are not really accessible as you would think. Even simple things like velocity distance from muzzle. It looks like the Army may have been measuring out at 50' not close in as one might expect.

Right now there are five threads about reloading on the Carbine Collector forum page.
Safety/ Accuracy/Shooting/Ammunition/Care and Maintenance - The Carbine Collector's Club - Page 1

And over in CMP forum, there is a long thread bookmarked that people still add to.

Considering the limited range of allowances available for this cartridge, one would have thought this was all very cut and dry. Clearly not!
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Reloading isn’t hard. So easy, even I can do it. Just have to follow instructions
 
dukeboy_318 said:
Reloading isn’t hard. So easy, even I can do it. Just have to follow instructions
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Beside the room, it looks to me like a major PIA. Cleaning, checking diameter and lengths, trimming, rechecking, then the getting the measures and depths right for the primer and bullet. Sorry, that's a lot of things to do and plenty of places to get things wrong.

Easier for me to pay someone.
Too many things I have to do 'cause I cant find someone to do it. Or at least not in a normal time frame and price.
 
Unconventional said:
Ours started out that way and changed their minds when they found the locals weren't going to buy a box of 100 when they needed only 3 bolts.
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Even when buying for work they never made much sense. Smaller hardware I could put on ACE account and was cheaper. Big stuff sucked when you have to get quantity of something you know you will never use more than a few of. If I needed quantity, Mcmaster was cheaper and usually had it next day. Grainger usually had more in stock if I wanted to go pick up right away. And when my co started requiring PO's first, Fastenal was a pain cause I had to get the prices first. I did still buy there occasionally for project orders.
 
Mattax said:
Beside the room, it looks to me like a major PIA. Cleaning, checking diameter and lengths, trimming, rechecking, then the getting the measures and depths right for the primer and bullet. Sorry, that's a lot of things to do and plenty of places to get things wrong.
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Actually I was of the same thought until I tried it. It’s not hard. Even the older equipment from the 60s all the way open to modern, have built in features to help with all that. Trimmers have length stops, primer seating tools have centering cups, cleaning is easy. Like I said, I’ve done it since 2011, it’s pretty simple. And I’ve never had any issues and trust me, if anyone is gonna have any issues, it’s going to be me haha
 
zkx14 said:
Even when buying for work they never made much sense. Smaller hardware I could put on ACE account and was cheaper. Big stuff sucked when you have to get quantity of something you know you will never use more than a few of. If I needed quantity, Mcmaster was cheaper and usually had it next day. Grainger usually had more in stock if I wanted to go pick up right away. And when my co started requiring PO's first, Fastenal was a pain cause I had to get the prices first. I did still buy there occasionally for project orders.
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Remember when Grainger would only sell to businesses?
 
dukeboy_318 said:
Actually I was of the same thought until I tried it. It’s not hard. Even the older equipment from the 60s all the way open to modern, have built in features to help with all that. Trimmers have length stops, primer seating tools have centering cups, cleaning is easy. Like I said, I’ve done it since 2011, it’s pretty simple. And I’ve never had any issues and trust me, if anyone is gonna have any issues, it’s going to be me haha
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A productive and semi-relaxing activity that keeps your mind busy. The performance enhancements were well worth it. Sorta like hot rodding :D
 
Paul Harrell's newest video compares something like 10 different commercial loadings of 7.62 x 39 in a modern AKplatform with 16" barrel.
Interesting seeing the group sizes and velocity spreads.
Also surprising to me how those groups compare with .30 carbine. I would have expected better out of a more modern design and construction.
 
Mattax said:
Interesting seeing the group sizes and velocity spreads.
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There lies the reason the reason to reload your own. Different barrels like different bullets and velocities than the manufacturing community has to make to be happy in ALL of that caliber out in the public.
 
Mattax said:
Paul Harrell's newest video compares something like 10 different commercial loadings of 7.62 x 39 in a modern AKplatform with 16" barrel.
Interesting seeing the group sizes and velocity spreads.
Also surprising to me how those groups compare with .30 carbine. I would have expected better out of a more modern design and construction.
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Every caliber is that way. Which is why I reload for my 6.5. Consistent and cheaper
 
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