Suggestions for new design Aluminum Mopar SB clean slate (kind of) cylinder heads

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fishmens67 said:
I'm really mixed up the original OP states 290 CFM.
Didn't Blueprint have a Trick Flow version crate engine at one time.
I think producing another head producing only 260 cfm is an underachieving endeavor. imo but it's not my business or money
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I wonder what the trick flow's, flow before there cnc'd ?
Probably around the same as were talking about here (240-260 cfm).
 
No one has been able to buy a victor in years now. Realistically it no longer exists


rumblefish360 said:
Absolutely. Though a 2.08? Not needed IMO.

IIRC, the BPE is not “That kind of head.” Closer to an Edelbrock.

That’s the TF head. Not what BPE is doing.
IMO, for the street guys, there isn’t a big hole to fill.
Stock heads for stock and mild cam upgrade
Edelbrock, Speedmaster heads for hotter street engines
Trickflow heads for very hot street engines

Weigh the price of porting each of the heads under a Trickflow and weigh your options. Consider cost in total.

Of course, you want to totally charge forth on a crazy LA engine, there is the Victor head. Flow rates for the Victor head below.

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fishmens67 said:
I'm really mixed up the original OP states 290 CFM.
Didn't Blueprint have a Trick Flow version crate engine at one time.
I think producing another head producing only 260 cfm is an underachieving endeavor. imo but it's not my business or money
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Yes, post #1.
 
I just searched summit and found only big block heads
 
MOPARMAGA said:
I see what you mean, yeah I really don't need to worry about any of that with external lines and swinging pick up tube, windage tray and baffled pan.
I guess I wasn't thinking about stock stuff, who does that lol ???
We never see g3 or LS bearing failures here at the shop
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Plenty of Racers with 1,500hp with no issues,I don't get what he's talking about.
 
I always wondered how something like this would go on a Mopar? Course, you'd have to go to a stud mounted rocker, but the canted valve design would probably work well. They never caught on good, but I think that's cause guys were scared of um. These are for the small Chevy.
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RustyRatRod said:
I always wondered how something like this would go on a Mopar? Course, you'd have to go to a stud mounted rocker, but the canted valve design would probably work well. They never caught on good, but I think that's cause guys were scared of um. These are for the small Chevy.
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Or I think it be kind of kewl if someone did a semi clean sheet Poly head for the LA already got the lifter angle for it :) maybe use a common intake Like LS or something else plentiful and maybe gen 3 hemi headers and maybe some already available rocker system. So Swap be pretty reasonable.
 
273 said:
Or I think it be kind of kewl if someone did a semi clean sheet Poly head for the LA already got the lifter angle for it :) maybe use a common intake Like LS or something else plentiful and maybe gen 3 hemi headers and maybe some already available rocker system. So Swap be pretty reasonable.
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That's gettin kinda further in left field I think. To do somethin like the Trick Flows above wouldn't be too hard. They even used the stock Chevy pushrod. Gettin kinda Clevelandish and that ain't a bad thing.
 
RustyRatRod said:
That's gettin kinda further in left field I think. To do somethin like the Trick Flows above wouldn't be too hard. They even used the stock Chevy pushrod. Gettin kinda Clevelandish and that ain't a bad thing.
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I know mines basically unrealistic but be kind kewl if someone did it :)
 
273 said:
I know mines basically unrealistic but be kind kewl if someone did it :)
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Hell, I'd love to see an affordable W series, valve train and all. We all would. It's just not feasible. Well.....not for po folks anyway. lol
 
RustyRatRod said:
Hell, I'd love to see an affordable W series, valve train and all. We all would. It's just not feasible. Well.....not for po folks anyway. lol
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Got to be W2 again, if you don't like ovalports you can square them off.

For me it would be a Poly head design but with revised exhaust position like the LA heads.
Semi hemi is the way forwards.

Then the pushrod angles would be back where they belong unlike LA heads.

Happy Christmas to all in small block Mopar land.
Best wishes from PolyJohn UK

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273 said:
Or I think it be kind of kewl if someone did a semi clean sheet Poly head for the LA already got the lifter angle for it :) maybe use a common intake Like LS or something else plentiful and maybe gen 3 hemi headers and maybe some already available rocker system. So Swap be pretty reasonable.
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TTI already makes the headers for a poly head in a B body. A really good intake does not exist.
 
RustyRatRod said:
I always wondered how something like this would go on a Mopar? Course, you'd have to go to a stud mounted rocker, but the canted valve design would probably work well. They never caught on good, but I think that's cause guys were scared of um. These are for the small Chevy.
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Is that a TF twisted wedge head? Is so, do that thing was horrible. It took a bunch of work just to get it decent.

The first set I did was right after I got my flow bench. I fixed them and all the rail birds were sure I butchered them.

Couldn’t get him to go to the dyno by he picked up 3 tenths.

IIRC that was the head was had an 18 degree angle on the intake valve and 23 on the exhaust.

They didn’t do well because they just weren’t that good.
 
RustyRatRod said:
I always wondered how something like this would go on a Mopar? Course, you'd have to go to a stud mounted rocker, but the canted valve design would probably work well. They never caught on good, but I think that's cause guys were scared of um. These are for the small Chevy.
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Kaase has some kind of a canted valve head for the SBF, so not a bad idea. But I think his tilt left/right rather than the intake tilting away from the port like in the above example. The one above seems like it makes the intake air make an even harder turn into the cylinder?

https://jonkaaseracingengines.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MD-JAN16-Kaase-web.pdf

Funny, it seems kind of like a hemi head with the valves twisted 90 degrees to the motor.
 
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Poly head will make good power if recast with better exhaust and narrow like the LA head.

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I’m confident there is zero chance that Blue Print will do anything even remotely related to a poly head for their crate engine program.
 
polyjohn said:
Poly head will make good power if recast with better exhaust and narrow like the LA head.

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That’s one reason why they didn’t keep the engine in production.

It’s too wide to fit the early A’s. If you narrow it up you end up with the valves in line.

You can drool over this 1960’s technology but there are inline valve heads that will blow that head away.

There were canter valve heads made for these engines. They got killed when NHRA wiped out the Pro Stock Truck class.

Those heads are old and obsolete.
 
Hopefully the heads flow as predicted I e. Around 290. Otherwise it doesn't offer much against the competition. I think afr released another Edelbrock copy recently and it's like Zzzzzz Zzzzzz Zzzzzz
 
Mean416 said:
Hopefully the heads flow as predicted I e. Around 290. Otherwise it doesn't offer much against the competition. I think afr released another Edelbrock copy recently and it's like Zzzzzz Zzzzzz Zzzzzz
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I was just looking that up yesterday.
Looks like the speedmaster casting and they put their own valvejob and hardware in it. So a 260cfm head unported similar to the promaxx variety.
 
cookietruck said:
I was just looking that up yesterday.
Looks like the speedmaster casting and they put their own valvejob and hardware in it. So a 260cfm head unported similar to the promaxx variety.
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Does Promax do mopar heads anymore? I feel like I reached out to them a few times and they did not. But maybe they brought them back?
 
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