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Keep thinking that. Your side is in the minority with that mindset...look at who agreed with you in the thread and look who agreed with the OPs side.
 
Kern Dog said:
Keep thinking that. Your side is in the minority with that mindset...look at who agreed with you in the thread and look who agreed with the OPs side.
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What does that have to do with anything?

The guy didn’t make a part that didn’t fit.

The end user was grossly unqualified to install them.

Take that **** to the bank.

And that’s not arrogance. That’s the truth slapping you upside the head.

Those of us who know, know. If you don’t know, you don’t.
 
Kern Dog said:
If they were a direct fit then they would not require any accommodations to get them to work.
Did they come from the packaging, bolt in place and fit like a stock setup?
No, they didn’t. The OP has a valid point.
How can you be so clueless to not see this? Do you really think that a guy should expect for everything to require additional work to install it?
Screw that. He had no warning. A simple WARNING next to parts that are not a direct fit would separate the hacks from the techs.
Know your market. He isn’t just selling to professional racers and engine builders.
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And the thing is, I have no issues modifying parts. I do all my own porting, fabrication, and some machine work. Had I been informed they needed that much clearancing, I'd have done it, or went 1.5s, before the heads were done and on. I was ignorant to the mods they needed. Which is why I called to ask why it was so far off. Immediately I got attitude. So many parts today dont fit, are made poorly, or are just plain wrong, I figured I got a bad set. Idk, maybe it's a combination of his parts, my parts, etc. Tolerance stacking wasn't in my favor. But it was definitely waaay off. I worked at a shop for a few years. My boss built plenty of race engines. His 406 aluminum chevy made 804 hp. I do not remember one time having issues with 1.6 rockers on anything. Although, he didn't do many mopar small blocks.
 
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It's always been a known fact that adding different ratio rockers "might" mean some "massaging" to the pushrod holes. It's like havin sex at an old folks home. You're probably gonna need some KY Jelly. That said, I think a few of you fellers are exploring new, uncharted areas of dickhead space. Yall please try not to much up every thread on here, ok?
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I believe no matter how vast his knowledge it's still incompetent... to tell somebody to "run It" without having a full knowledge of what's going on. ... just to get you off the phone because he's already got your money...
That was how I was treated, and I know a few were treated that way, that would be the end of it...
I know I didn't come in tons of blazing telling him his stuff didn't work right? I said I have an issue and this doesn't seem right. And I tried to explain it to him to the very best of detail. Because, of course I've done this several times before, and something didn't seem right. And sometimes if you call these people, and they've seen it a million times maybe They've run across this one and they could be of some help, and if they can't, they can just say I'm not sure I can be of any help for you. I just can't see it. I don't understand exactly not run it...
 
Newbomb Turk said:
What does that have to do with anything?

The guy didn’t make a part that didn’t fit.

The end user was grossly unqualified to install them.

Take that **** to the bank.

And that’s not arrogance. That’s the truth slapping you upside the head.

Those of us who know, know. If you don’t know, you don’t.
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^^^ Here is a guy that is hit in the face with evidence yet fails to see what is probably obvious to everyone but him.
I have made it as simple as I can make it, yet you still refuse to see it.
The OP made an extension of his point above in post #153. There are aftermarket parts that are made wrong and don't fit. How the hell is he supposed to know that THIS part is supposed to work ONLY after making other changes? There were no tech sheets, no warnings, nothing.
To repeat for the 10th time....IF the vendor would have included a memo/notation/advisory that clearancing may be required, then a customer is now aware of a potential issue and can decide to move forward or buy something else. You act as if this isn't necessary but obviously it is.
How much more simple do I have to make it so that you will get it?
You are making this issue far more complicated than it really is. You are also thinly hiding your contempt for people that might need a bit of help.
 
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I repeat my rockers I bought, we're great. They still work great, and I still love them. And there was no correction, they're the perfect sweep, perfect everything I love them...

Let me repeat I will never buy another thing or never call this person ever again in my life....
 
It is great to be confident but it is also great to be confident and correct.
It is arrogant to take the attitude that says if you're not willing or able to modify parts to fit, you shouldn't be working on cars.
The OP states that he is willing to but wasn't given the option.
 
Kern Dog said:
It is great to be confident but it is also great to be confident and correct.
It is arrogant to take the attitude that says if you're not willing or able to modify parts to fit, you shouldn't be working on cars.
The OP states that he is willing to but wasn't given the option.
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WTF? The OP already said he wasn’t going to modify the heads.

And there is nothing wrong with the rockers so what’s to modify on those?

Damn. Get over it. You aren’t qualified to build an engine. It’s ok.
 
Kern Dog said:
It is great to be confident but it is also great to be confident and correct.
It is arrogant to take the attitude that says if you're not willing or able to modify parts to fit, you shouldn't be working on cars.
The OP states that he is willing to but wasn't given the option.
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Apparently I'm qualified to build a 360 with a 6-71 blower, build Shovelhead and Panhead strokers (you wanna talk about modifying parts to fit) and a whole pile of V8s from different manufacturers, but I'm not qualified to install 1.6 rocker arms! Hahaha what a fruit cake.
 
Newbomb Turk said:
WTF? The OP already said he wasn’t going to modify the heads.

And there is nothing wrong with the rockers so what’s to modify on those?

Damn. Get over it. You aren’t qualified to build an engine. It’s ok.
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Your comments are very tiresome. There's nothing to back them up. You do it to irritate people and be the one that has to be right. To also make others feel less than you. Sounds like trauma. What a miserable existence.
 
This layout is excellent:

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On the website page, in the instructions I saw this....Page 5, line 6:

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"Some" intake pushrods will drag in the tunnel.
Is that what happened?
 
mopar head said:
Did you read Hughes setup instructions?
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Yes, after my heads were on unfortunately . And had I known the interference was that much before I put my heads together and on the block, I would have either not ordered them, or ground out the heads. With the amount of material I needed to remove though. I probably would've returned them anyway.
 
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Step 14: On all heads, check for pushrod-to-tunnel interference, and correct as required. Some race heads may need considerable clearancing. Check before going through the pushrod length procedure. .002” is enough at tightest point during lift.Note: Pushrods can touch on their sides without problems as long as they don’t rub hard enough to tear a piece of masking tape off of the pushrod. Run them!
 
mopar head said:
Step 14: On all heads, check for pushrod-to-tunnel interference, and correct as required. Some race heads may need considerable clearancing. Check before going through the pushrod length procedure. .002” is enough at tightest point during lift.Note: Pushrods can touch on their sides without problems as long as they don’t rub hard enough to tear a piece of masking tape off of the pushrod. Run them!
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I didn't read that until I got the rockers. Apparently my reading on the website was incomplete. I for sure would've checked before I put the heads together. Live and learn. I just wish he had worked with me rather than be a big baby about it.
 
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