It appears what you did was the correct procedure, but you simply made a mistake somewhere. Happens all the time. No need for a senior citizen home. It's just a hunk of metal. You'll get it figured out.
Upset with Degree wheel findings
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AZ-Nick
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107+115=222 and 222/2=111 LSA doesn't it?
Probably not much help now but I installed an Oregon cam a year or so ago with the same Cloyes chain set....no issues (at least the motor runs lol). I hadn't built a V8 in a number of years so I referred to this video which I thought was straightforward.
AZ-Nick
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The LSA is 111
says Lobe center line: 107
The 107 is what I was adjusting for!
Was I supposed to adjust to the 226 \ 2 = 113 ?
AZ-Nick
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thanks I will look at this and see what I did wrong
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cookietruck
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He is just trying to check installed centerline.
I think he is referring to .050 as the degree wheel readings .050” on each side of his max lift.
He is not talking about the cam duration.
AZ-Nick
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Thank you Thank you Thank you, yes that is what I was trying to describe....
AZ-Nick
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Yes I did it just like the video showed what to do
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If you had mentioned using max lift clearly in the first post, things go different. The .050 value is used plenty to get ICL. Tappet lift off base, either side of max lift.
Even after doing that method, it's a good idea to go back and check the tappet lift numbers, in this case the 6 and 40 to get secondary assurance.
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AZ-Nick
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my apologies on how I described it in the first post.
And please bear with me on my next question.
When you say “6 and 40” , are you meaning the moment of lifter lift to open valve and the moment of lifter stopping or valve closed added to 180 which will equal 226 duration?
That gets you the 226 number above at .050 of tappet lift. It's not the moment the tappet lifts. zero out the indicator when the lifter is on the base circle, get it to .050 lift, then look at the reading on the wheel. Should be at 6 BTDC on the way up and 40 ABDC on the way down and hit .050 going back to .000 on base circle..
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AZ-Nick
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I just checked it and I got 6 and 40, thanks for the explanation.
good to go!
AZ-Nick
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thank you for your patience and not giving up on an old man... I appreciate it
Rob won’t give up on an old man, he’s an old man himself. Oops, did I just say that?
Good job! looks like you have it where you want it. I don't mean to be nit picking but when you wrote your duration numbers you proceeded them with a decimal point. This might have confused the matter. Lift numbers are proceeded with a decimal point because they are measured in inches. Duration is measured in degrees of rotation so those numbers are followed with the(°) or sometimes the(*) symbol or by writing (deg.). I'm sure you already know this and sorry again if this comes across as nit picking. Good luck with your project!
AZ-Nick
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I think you did it. lol Here's what I recommend. I would walk up to it and do it everyday for a week so that you get the procedure down pat. I used to do it on a very regular basis, but now I do not. So even when I break everything out, I go over it several times.
Dartswinger70
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Best I can tell OP is off by 4 degrees that's what the mutiple keyways are for. They should be able to get it pretty much spot on at 107
AZ-Nick
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I did get it there, Thanks for your reply
AZ-Nick
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No more, this is the last time.
Over the years I’ve told my wife many times that when I purchased a car that it would be my last car that I was buying and I would not work on any more. So just in the last 17years here is my list
65 Belvedere 512ci
67 Dart 383
71 Charger R/T
68 GTX
71 GTX 4sp
GTO Judge R/A lll
70 Challenger R/T
Corvette ZO6
ZL1 Camaro
69 Swinger 340 currently.
Because of my age and current health condition the Dart is my last unless I purchase a restored Mopar to just drive around.
67Dart273
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How old are ya, Nick? I am 76, and I admit I have REALLY slowed down. Unfortunately I am now dealing with a house fire so there won't be many "projects" in the automotive world. Just before the fire, I had actually yarded out the roller block 360 that will be going back into the 67, and had intended to get it to "run and move" last fall. Plans changed.
It will be THREE years ago this August, I converted my 2WD "grey whale" 01 Cummins to 4WD.
I started the last week or so of August, and finally finished after Thanksgiving
www.forabodiesonly.com
The start--unloading the V10 automatic parts truck in August. I don't remember, think I paid 1200 for it and sold it for 500. Poorly running (1 or 2 dead holes) V10, lots of miles, and front axle and driveshaft U joints all beaten out.
and the finish---the parts truck now "tossed" somewhat back together on the old 2WD frame, going off to a lucky buyer
Today, and because the old '01 Diesel has no key fobs, sits outdoors with poor door lock weather protection, I'm installing a chineseoizationized "keyless entry" module in the door.At least if we get an ice storm, or enough water in the locks to freeze, I can unlock the darn thing.
It will be THREE years ago this August, I converted my 2WD "grey whale" 01 Cummins to 4WD.
I started the last week or so of August, and finally finished after Thanksgiving
The dummy and the diesel.........The Grey Whale
For those "newer guys," Del has had an entire "school" of whales, or do they come in pods? White Whale I, II, III, "Mini Whale" (Dakota) and now the "Grey Whale" is an 01 Dodge 2500 Cummins TWO wheel drive. LET'S convert it to FOUR wheel drive!! So today I drug home...
www.forabodiesonly.com
The start--unloading the V10 automatic parts truck in August. I don't remember, think I paid 1200 for it and sold it for 500. Poorly running (1 or 2 dead holes) V10, lots of miles, and front axle and driveshaft U joints all beaten out.
and the finish---the parts truck now "tossed" somewhat back together on the old 2WD frame, going off to a lucky buyer
Today, and because the old '01 Diesel has no key fobs, sits outdoors with poor door lock weather protection, I'm installing a chineseoizationized "keyless entry" module in the door.At least if we get an ice storm, or enough water in the locks to freeze, I can unlock the darn thing.
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AZ-Nick
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Wow sounds like you have your hands full especially having a house fire on top of everything.How old are ya, Nick? I am 76, and I admit I have REALLY slowed down. Unfortunately I am now dealing with a house fire so there won't be many "projects" in the automotive world. Just before the fire, I had actually yarded out the roller block 360 that will be going back into the 67, and had intended to get it to "run and move" last fall. Plans changed.
It will be THREE years ago this August, I converted my 2WD "grey whale" 01 Cummins to 4WD.
I started the last week or so of August, and finally finished after Thanksgiving
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The start--unloading the V10 automatic parts truck in August. I don't remember, think I paid 1200 for it and sold it for 500. Poorly running (1 or 2 dead holes) V10, lots of miles, and front axle and driveshaft U joints all beaten out.
and the finish---the parts truck now "tossed" somewhat back together on the old 2WD frame, going off to a lucky buyer
Today, and because the old '01 Diesel has no key fobs, sits outdoors with poor door lock weather protection, I'm installing a chineseoizationized "keyless entry" module in the door.At least if we get an ice storm, or enough water in the locks to freeze, I can unlock the darn thing.
I’m 74 but my medical issues is what keeps me from putting no more than 2-4 hours a week working on the Dart. I have a bad arthritic ankle that the surgeon wants to fuse it together, so I have no left to right motion, which will make me lose my balance. Severe arthritis in my hands. Severe arthritis in my right hip. Recently the day after Christmas, I spent 18 hours in the emergency room because I couldn’t walk anymore due to really severe back and leg pains. This issue has been bothering me for the last three months. At least my mind is still intact.
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