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gunbunny said:
Your package may have wound up in the wrong sorting line and was sent to the wrong post office, but it didn't hit the street. The carrier wouldn't be able to deliver it for several reasons. When scanned it would come back as no such street, no such number, or the zip would be bad for that mail route.
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I'm the one that sent one of the packages in question, I have the paper right here that clearly states:

"your item was delivered in or at the mailbox at 2:17 PM on March 13, 2015 in ZIP code 61217". The actual ZIP is 31217 to which the package was addressed.

When my Postmaster called down there, the supervisor asked the carrier, and the carrier said they delivered it. Then she called two days later, after I spoke with Rob on the phone, and the carriers story had changed a bit, as in delivering it a different day.

I sent 2 packages, someone else sent 1, Rob only received 2.

Maybe you can 'splain this. lol.

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gunbunny said:
Not true, at least here. Rural carrier services our route. Few years back he stopped bringing packages to t he houses. According to him and the "postmaster" of the Ford PO due to our roads being private he is not insured while on them. He gets stuck, hits a tree or gets in an accident he is uninsured.....no different than if you or are were to get in a wreck in Walmarts parking lot.
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inkjunkie said:
Not true, at least here. Rural carrier services our route. Few years back he stopped bringing packages to t he houses. According to him and the "postmaster" of the Ford PO due to our roads being private he is not insured while on them. He gets stuck, hits a tree or gets in an accident he is uninsured.....no different than if you or are were to get in a wreck in Walmarts parking lot.
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In an LLV? I'm under the impression all rural carriers were going into them and out of their privately owned cars.
I know they cut the city routes so badly and overburdened them to free up LLV's. Doug you know how the USPS insures their fleets. Private road or not, they got it handled. There aren't any rural carriers in privately owned cars here now at all with the exception of the contract routes. Then, if they are under insured, that's their problem.
As for the different zip codes,
I can't splain that at all!
looks like the carrier scanned it out for delivery to the right zip, but somewhere, somehow something got messed up.
I'm going to have to call that one a S.N.A.F.U.
But, I still think you're being lied to, I've just seen it way to many times by those SOB's.
But what you really need to keep in mind is this, the tracking and scanning devices that the USPS uses isn't for customer use at all. They aren't even kinda concerned with where your package is. That whole system is in place to track and keep tabs on the carriers and other employees. It tells postal management when and where the carrier was at a given time. So, when your package was scanned, they knew the carrier was at your house at 2:17, they can look at the route book and see if that is an acceptable time for the carrier to be there. If the carrier is running late, moving fast ect. They only want to see one piece of data on that string, the rest is not relevant.
Doug and the other Postal employees on here will tell you, USPS is no joy to work for. I'm certain that Stalin wrote the management handbook and the North Koreans adopted it as a way of life.
I've never seen a more crap way to handle people in my life, the military was kinder!
 
Ink,

I have 30 years with Pitney Bowes, and I know you know who that is.

Bruce displayed an online tracking sequence. It clearly shows out for delivery from a Georgia PO. Macon. I know I can not answer. How the hell did it get delivered to a zipcode in Kansas? Address verification had to already confirm the delivery address or it would not be processed to Macon.

Oh and UPS does have partnership with USPS as well. It is called Mail Innovations.
 
RustyRatRod said:
It makes no sense either that they can deliver a notice to the mailbox that says I have a package (that will not fit in the mailbox) when all they have to do is drive down my driveway and leave it on the porch. My PO branch is literally 25 miles away in Macon. Not JUST in Macon. but on the OPPOSITE side of Bibb county from me in Jones county. It is literally as far away from me as possible while still being in Bibb county. Yet I live 6 miles from Gordon, Georgia and 8 miles from Gray, Georgia. Talk about stupid.
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Rob, don't feel too bad. I live less than 12 miles from the main PO in Macon, less than 10 miles from the Walnut Street branch in the Federal building, and less than 5 miles form the riverside branch PO. It still takes 4 days to get a piece of mail that originates in Macon, delivered to my house.

USPS service is POOR, at best, and they are bleeding money, too.
 
Bad Sport said:
Nope....no one can be as stupid as the USPS.
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I got to disagree. I took a box to UPS to ship, I used 2 rolls of clear tape and completely tapped the box up, it was a brand new box, not damaged or anything, just didnt want the turbocharger to fall out of it. You'd need a very sharp knife to even open it. At the time, I was building shipping packages for Menards so I knew how to pack stuff.

Anyway, the guy working counter stamped it as poorly sealed and refused to allow me to insure it for the 1600 dollars it needed, with that stamp, he wouldn't let me insure it at all....needless to say, I didn't ship it with them and took it to fedex down the street, which ended up being cheaper.
 
spinman_1949 said:
Ink,

I have 30 years with Pitney Bowes, and I know you know who that is.

Bruce displayed an online tracking sequence. It clearly shows out for delivery from a Georgia PO. Macon. I know I can not answer. How the hell did it get delivered to a zipcode in Kansas? Address verification had to already confirm the delivery address or it would not be processed to Macon.

Oh and UPS does have partnership with USPS as well. It is called Mail Innovations.
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yeah that is retarded there too. I live 7 miles from the UPS delivery hub, I ordered a package from classic industries a couple years back, tracking was UPS, it showed it arriving at the hub, then put on a truck and hauled 200 miles round trip away to the region hub, only to come back to the local hub and then to the post office, then to me..... I called and was told that was how they kept their prices down.....
 
I got some good ones for ya.............

I got a neighbor, or well, HAD a neighbor, they moved......... back just BEFORE "Christmas, of 2014...... Mailman STILL delivers mail to them, at their old address, OK, reason being, we live in a duplex, they lived right beside us, shared the same front porch. OK? Was and still is good friends with these people too..... Matt & Dee, told me they filled out change of address slips turned them in to the local post office to have there current mail forwarded from the old address to there new one till they were able to get all the addresses changed to the new one..... SO what happens? The post man, goes to deliver a package to them, NEXT DOOR to me, sees me and asks me if the poeple next door still live there!? I was like no, and haven't since before Christmas! Hes like OK, that evening Dee shows up asking me to keep an eye out on a package telling her that the mail man tried to deliver it just hours before, (she or Matt, had to sign for it). SO, this goes on, 2 days later 2nd notice, I CAUGHT him..... our "mailman" and said listen, I'll sign for it, give it to me and I'll make sure Matt or Dee gets it. His reply to me? I only have a delivery notice, I don't have the package. I Said go get the damn thing then and bring it back to me! I'll sign for the package IF you have the package with you....... then I'll get it to Matt or Dee when I see them or if they stop by here.... OK he leaves, 3 days pass, he comes back with yet ANOTHER NOTE missed delivery.......... WTF doesn't this dumbass get?

That evening around 6 PM I called Matt, and told them the situation, he tells me that the package was SENT BACK to the sender that DAY.............. THAT DAY? WTF? The mail man was delivering a 3rd missed package notice, to a package that was SENT BACK that same day?

More recently, I noticed the mailman, only comes down my street what seems every other day................ ALL my neighbors have been bitching about it. AND I have to say, this guy is a joke..... I don't put "mail" to be mailed" in our mail box as I don't trust the dumbass to even look to take it WITH a stamp on it!

I've recently had a letter that I was to sign for, show up, missed notice put in the DOOR, that was to be signed for, OK? THE LETTER in the mail box!!!!!! I NEVER signed for it!!!!! This one, I been wondering if I ought not report it to someone at the post office but I'm just not sure!

Last year, Matt & Dee had a Border collie, a GREAT friendly dog, the whole neighborhood loved "Mikey" the mailman SAME one as now, with the dog on a leash, would not deliver mail past Matt & Dee's and tell EVERYONE that those address would not be getting mail that day due to a dog being outside........ Sadly, ON A LEASH!? I was there and seen and heard him say this......

I think the missed delivery notices, are a way for the USPS to make more money on package to be shipped a SECOND time..... Hiring dumbasses, I'm not sure about
 
gunbunny said:
Quick question, when they deliver your mail, do they drive the normal white square mail trucks or their own private cars?
The reason I ask is that some routes are contracted out to private carriers.
Even if it's a contracted route, they should still bring the package, however, if they're not you may want to get a the NRLCA involved. They've been trying to shut down those contract routes forever.
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90% or more of the time, it's their own private vehicle. Only every now and again is it a postal vehicle.


But see, I don't give a flying flip exactly WHY the packages aren't being delivered. I just want my damned packages.
 
My wife was employed by the PO for over ten years. The last 19 months she worked 6 days a week. She was not considered full time because the PM was giving routes to Tuscaloosa because the thought he was getting the PM job there. She drove her own car and as was leaving work 10/21/93 was killed in accident in front of PO. Two weeks later she got a letter from I think St Louis main office saying she was being terminated for not reporting to work. Hard to go to work after you have been buried! No benefits whatsoever. I could go on and on but get po'ed everytime I think about it, Joe
 
Frankie said:
Rob, don't feel too bad. I live less than 12 miles from the main PO in Macon, less than 10 miles from the Walnut Street branch in the Federal building, and less than 5 miles form the riverside branch PO. It still takes 4 days to get a piece of mail that originates in Macon, delivered to my house.

USPS service is POOR, at best, and they are bleeding money, too.
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You could walk a letter across town faster.
 
RustyRatRod said:
You could walk a letter across town faster.
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LOL that's what I was thinking. My ebay order is 12 hours away by car. It is now day eight and I am still waiting! Talk about slow.:violent1:
 
red67gts said:
My wife was employed by the PO for over ten years. The last 19 months she worked 6 days a week. She was not considered full time because the PM was giving routes to Tuscaloosa because the thought he was getting the PM job there. She drove her own car and as was leaving work 10/21/93 was killed in accident in front of PO. Two weeks later she got a letter from I think St Louis main office saying she was being terminated for not reporting to work. Hard to go to work after you have been buried! No benefits whatsoever. I could go on and on but get po'ed everytime I think about it, Joe
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Sorry to hear about that.
It's pathetic the way the P/O treats RCA's
 
gunbunny said:
Sorry to hear about that.
It's pathetic the way the P/O treats RCA's
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yep, after it was over with I paid that Postmaster a visit and told him I had laid off coming down there for years because I didn't want to cause her problems on her job but now I don't have anything to lose. Told him everything I wanted him to know and got it off my chest. Was just hoping he would give me some back talk or try to throw me out but he didn't or I would have been in jail, Joe
 
While building a house 150 miles from where I lived at the time, I sent the builder a check. After three days, he called and asked if I had sent it, to which I replied in the affirmative. A week later, it still hadn't arrived, so I sent another, which made it in two days. Seven months later, the letter is returned to me at my old address, but forwarded to my new home. I showed it to my builder to prove I hadn't been lying. The correct address was clearly posted, as was the zip code, but it was stamped undeliverable...no such address...two days after it had been sent. The builder had received mail at that address for years. Seven months later, it was again stamped undeliverable...bad address...return to sender. I have no idea where it was for seven months!

That said, the rural mail carriers at my last two addresses have been outstanding. Hard working, friendly, helpful. Yes, once in awhile they'll make a delivery mistake, but they do a fine job for all the mail they handle. Biggest problem I've seen with packages is their hand scanners not working properly, so they have to manually feed the beast. That's when errors occur.

My ***** is the advertising. I my 73 years I don't think I have ever bought an item advertised by mail, but I've probably thrown a couple tons of flyers, catalogs, and postcards in the trash. There is no way I will accept the premise that bulk rate advertising pays the bills.
 
GaryS said:
While building a house 150 miles from where I lived at the time, I sent the builder a check. After three days, he called and asked if I had sent it, to which I replied in the affirmative. A week later, it still hadn't arrived, so I sent another, which made it in two days. Seven months later, the letter is returned to me at my old address, but forwarded to my new home. I showed it to my builder to prove I hadn't been lying. The correct address was clearly posted, as was the zip code, but it was stamped undeliverable...no such address...two days after it had been sent. The builder had received mail at that address for years. Seven months later, it was again stamped undeliverable...bad address...return to sender. I have no idea where it was for seven months!

That said, the rural mail carriers at my last two addresses have been outstanding. Hard working, friendly, helpful. Yes, once in awhile they'll make a delivery mistake, but they do a fine job for all the mail they handle. Biggest problem I've seen with packages is their hand scanners not working properly, so they have to manually feed the beast. That's when errors occur.

My ***** is the advertising. I my 73 years I don't think I have ever bought an item advertised by mail, but I've probably thrown a couple tons of flyers, catalogs, and postcards in the trash. There is no way I will accept the premise that bulk rate advertising pays the bills.
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I`ve had excellant service out of the post office in Collinsville,ok, the worst service I`ve ever had out of a post office anywhere, was ( more than one time) in Owasso , ok. I hope this gets back to them and pisses them of terribly! " not holding my breath on that!":finga:
 
Well I got a call back from the annex in Jackson yesterday, the stupid women says she will send the package back, because she doesn't know where to send it. Keep in mind it has my name, address, city, state and zip right on it, yet she doesn't know where to send it. I told her just put it on the truck to my local PO and I will get it. She again says she doesn't know where to send it.

I called customer service again and the gal that answered listened to my issue, and asks me, "so what do you want me to do about it", really?

The whole time I'm talking to her she is eating something and crinkling the package so loudly I could barely hear her. She then asked me if there as anything else she could assist me with, really, you haven't assited me with anything. At that point she hung up on me.

In the future when I buy or sell anything on here it will have to go UPS or FED EX.

I can't even track the package because they aren't scanning it.
 
Timing is everything. My carrier brought five packages for my wife this morning. She had a brand new scanner model only two weeks old. According to what she was told, it's more sensitive and more accurate...it read only one of the five packages and she had to manually enter the code. That's a real time saver!

Wonder how many millions it cost to buy those new scanners?
 
I just got a package from Amazon...sent to NH from King of Prussia, PA. It arrived today.

It was sent March 31. It was supposedly tracked...but according to the website, it's last update was "arrived at facility" in KoP!
 
340wedge said:
LOL that's what I was thinking. My ebay order is 12 hours away by car. It is now day eight and I am still waiting! Talk about slow.:violent1:
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Update; I finally received the item. The post office didn't update the shipping info until day 10, it arrived on day 11..The shipping sticker the seller paid for was 3 day arrival, and it took 11 days for something that was 12 hours away.:protest:
 
Jarlaxle said:
I just got a package from Amazon...sent to NH from King of Prussia, PA. It arrived today.

It was sent March 31. It was supposedly tracked...but according to the website, it's last update was "arrived at facility" in KoP!
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Gee, it couldn't have been processed through the facility in Warrendale PA. If it was, you probably still would not have it. Parcels go there to get lost for weeks, months, or forever. One of the Post Offices I deliver mail out of ordered stamps. They are sent out of Virginia. Should have got to the PO around March 28. Last scan was arrival at Warrendale on March 26. Still have not arrived at the PO less than 4 hours away. Pretty bad when the postal service can't even send their own **** without losing it. Any time anything around here is lost in the mail, last scan is Warrendale. It seems to be a black hole where things go to die.
 
It seems that there are many issues with the post office, from the sheer volume of mail and PP they deal with on a daily basis, to the quality of the personal they are forced to keep on staff, to the inflexibility of it's management staff, to the financial looses the suffer daily, and a thousand more things.

All in all, considering the amount of pieces they handle daily, and the number of issues they have working against them, I suppose they do a decent job at making these deliveries.

Keep in mind that at one time, they were the only way of moving mail and packages small enough to be delivered by a mail carrier. With the advent of UPS, FedEx, RDS, DHL, and so many other package deliver services who's hands are not tied by government bureaucracy, and ridiculous hiring restraints like Affirmative Action, and such, which applies hiring and promotion quotas based on race and sex, instead of qualifications, and it becomes easier to see why such an entity would continuously have difficulty fulfilling it's mission statement.

The private sector companies have a much easier time of things because they aren't required to meet the same restrictive policies the Post office has to deal with on an hourly basis. That, and the fact that the post office STILL has more daily stops to make than just about all it's private sector competitors, combines, and is forced to do so at a lose of revenue, daily.

While I'm not truly satisfied with the quality of the service TODAY'S post office offers, I do appreciate that they are forced to deal with the artificial restraints the Federal Government places on them.
 
stroked340 said:
Hope it was in one piece..Amazon is the WORST when it comes to packaging,forget how much of there crap i've had to rewrap:wack:
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Just a couple books in a padded mailer. I have never had a problem with Amazon's packaging.
 
Well, after multiple phone calls and complaints to the PO, I finally got my package. 12 days from Denver to Michigan.

I had to buy a cheap mailbox and put it up at the end of my road to get the package delivered.

So if they could get it to my town via carrier, then what was the big deal about getting it here to the same town to the Post Office right around the corner from me and I could have just picked it up like I do other stuff.

Idiots, or should I say robots. :banghead:
 
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