UTG engine build "callout"

[rumblefish360]

How much money could UTG actually be making off of the YouTube channel? All that say it is a win/win for UTG is right.

Considering the differences in 318 performance through the years, and the difference in usage and wear, lets make this a fair fight, and use a 318 reman crate engine, and then throw down the gasket challenge.

The “Fair” part came in when UTG said any year 318, your choice. So choose wisely.

I dont understand the logic in tearing apart a worn out 50 year old core engine, and reassembling with zero new parts or machine work. Literally NO ONE, would go to that amount of work, even the very most low buck guy would at very minimum put rings and bearings in it.

So it would seem but to be honest on what UTG said, he just said it has to be a 318, use only the parts contained within. The carb (2bbl.) & intake must be used. What ever you do to it is fine, but it must be the OEM part.

Think FAST engine. WhT can you do to it on the inside to make it faster? Well, I’ll give you all a hint and say, break out the die grinder and start making things light.

Now, with that said...... what else would you do?
I have a few ideas to make/rework stock parts for a faster more powerful engine.

This is an exercise of being creative with what you have instead of running your credit card through at Summit & Jegs.

The way I heard and interpreted the rules is you must reuse the stock rings. You can hone the cylinder and reuse the stock rings IF the items are not beyond reuse. A crank regrind and new bearings might be a must though. Without going back to the video while I make this edit/reply, did he say that was a no no?

 

[vntned]

The problem is people are picking sides, just like everything else nowadays.

You got the UTG guys talking junk in the comments about Roadkill, and RK guys talking about UTG.

The fact of the whole thing is:

Tony says "piston flipping makes power"

RK says "prove it"

UTG fan makes video explaining why it "should make power in theory"

UTG fanboys claim victory

RK fanboys say "prove it"

Tony challenges RK to see who can re-gasket a worn out 318 better

UTG fanboys applaud Tony's challenge as brave and continue to talk crap about RK

RK guys are still saying "prove it"

 

[toolmanmike]

The problem is people are picking sides, just like everything else nowadays.

You got the UTG guys talking junk in the comments about Roadkill, and RK guys talking about UTG.

The fact of the whole thing is:

Tony says "piston flipping makes power"

RK says "prove it"

UTG fan makes video explaining why it "should make power in theory"

UTG fanboys claim victory

RK fanboys say "prove it"

Tony challenges RK to see who can re-gasket a worn out 318 better

UTG fanboys applaud Tony's challenge as brave and continue to talk crap about RK

RK guys are still saying "prove it"

And we still don't have an answer. Meanwhile their subscriber numbers keep going up!

 

[Dartswinger70]

The problem is people are picking sides, just like everything else nowadays.

You got the UTG guys talking junk in the comments about Roadkill, and RK guys talking about UTG.

The fact of the whole thing is:

Tony says "piston flipping makes power"

RK says "prove it"

UTG fan makes video explaining why it "should make power in theory"

UTG fanboys claim victory

RK fanboys say "prove it"

Tony challenges RK to see who can re-gasket a worn out 318 better

UTG fanboys applaud Tony's challenge as brave and continue to talk crap about RK

RK guys are still saying "prove it"

Kind of what I been saying its junk, who wants to waste their time on junk. I wouldn't be surprised if RK guys didn't even acknowledge UTG call out. Its like the bush league calling out the major league. Or like me getting in the ring with Mike Tyson LOL!

 

[318willrun]

Yeah definitely for the clicks, I still say The Roadkill guys don't even do it. Why would they? has anyone seen a response from them yet? I usually am right more often than wrong I can sniff out the bullshit. Building a junkyard 335 HP 383 is different than dicking around with a 318 2 barrel out of a 73 Satellite wagon.

You'd be wrong.... AGAIN LOL
You obviously don't follow much of what they've done. Here is a quick example of a E-body 318 Roadkill car that they pieced together as they made their long trip across the country to the dragstrip in a different state and raced this pile with a 318. I'm not "paying" for the actual race video, but this was the car and engine.

 

[vntned]

Yeah, not trying to pick sides, but in my opinion, this is making Tony look bad.

Burden of proof is on the accuser. Tony makes the accusation that "piston flipping" makes power. It's up to him to prove his theory is right.

Making excuses and moving the goal posts isn't helping prove the claim.

 

[318willrun]

The problem is people are picking sides, just like everything else nowadays.

You got the UTG guys talking junk in the comments about Roadkill, and RK guys talking about UTG.

The fact of the whole thing is:

Tony says "piston flipping makes power"

RK says "prove it"

UTG fan makes video explaining why it "should make power in theory"

UTG fanboys claim victory

RK fanboys say "prove it"

Tony challenges RK to see who can re-gasket a worn out 318 better

UTG fanboys applaud Tony's challenge as brave and continue to talk crap about RK

RK guys are still saying "prove it"

So let's say what it really is:

Why does UTG have to prove anything to anyone? don't like the idea, don't do it. Like it, do it. Unsure and would like to try it?? Proceed soldier !!!!!

 

[318willrun]

Yeah, not trying to pick sides, but in my opinion, this is making Tony look bad.

Burden of proof is on the accuser. Tony makes the accusation that "piston flipping" makes power. It's up to him to prove his theory is right.

Making excuses and moving the goal posts isn't helping prove the claim.

the accuser is the person accusing somebody of something. UTG didn't accuse anyone of being wrong, just stated what worked for him. The accuser would be Roadkill guys. Accusing him of being wrong. So he needs to prove it??? Roadkill needs to prove their accusation. I see you've picked a side as well
Innocent until proven guilty. UTG claims he makes more power by bank swapping. Roadkill accuses him of being wrong. Who's job is it to prove ?? the accuser.

 

[rumblefish360]

UGT is a dickweed.
Answers a call out with a callout... total fag in my book.

Welcome to click hate entertainment....
Hey! When is your channel going to be up and running?

The problem is people are picking sides, just like everything else nowadays.

You got the UTG guys talking junk in the comments about Roadkill, and RK guys talking about UTG.

The fact of the whole thing is:

Tony says "piston flipping makes power"

RK says "prove it"

UTG fan makes video explaining why it "should make power in theory"

UTG fanboys claim victory

RK fanboys say "prove it"

Tony challenges RK to see who can re-gasket a worn out 318 better

UTG fanboys applaud Tony's challenge as brave and continue to talk crap about RK

RK guys are still saying "prove it"

LMAO —- TRUE!

Yeah, not trying to pick sides, but in my opinion, this is making Tony look bad.

Burden of proof is on the accuser. Tony makes the accusation that "piston flipping" makes power. It's up to him to prove his theory is right.

Making excuses and moving the goal posts isn't helping prove the claim.

Tony made the claim that MoPar made the claim that it makes power.

 

[NC Engine Builder]

He did state the ONLY new parts allowed would be a gasket set. I'd just go get a junkyard 5.2 magnum, set the 2 barrel intake on it, hack drill a few bolt holes to hold it down, and easily win this challenge against his 72 318

 

[318willrun]

He did state the ONLY new parts allowed would be a gasket set. I'd just go get a junkyard 5.2 magnum, set the 2 barrel intake on it, hack drill a few bolt holes to hold it down, and easily win this challenge against his 72 318

didn't he say "any year in the 70's" ?? Thought he did....
6:09 of the video

 

[Dartswinger70]

I'm not picking sides, UTG is just playing around with junk, why doesn't he run his 383 Road Runner down the track? Or that Swinger Or the 340 Satellite/ Roadrunner he has sitting there, I think he has a 67 Belvedere also. The guy has competitive equipment I mean he could build a riding mower up for the drags and the riding mower folks would subscribe...then it would be bickering over Honda, Briggs, Tecumseh and Predator powerplants

 

[vntned]

If someone claims something is true, then someone replies prove it, then shouldn't the person making the claim of truth be the one who proves it?!

I'm not saying it doesn't make power, or that the Ramchargers were wrong, or RK is right, or anything like that at all. I'm just saying, Tony should prove it right or wrong, that way he/we know.

Seems to me everybody is getting hurt feelings about which YouTube guy shares their opinion. Screw feelings, let's figure out if piston flipping actually makes power!!!

 

[Dartswinger70]

If someone claims something is true, then someone replies prove it, then shouldn't the person making the claim of truth be the one who proves it?!

I'm not saying it doesn't make power, or that the Ramchargers were wrong, or RK is right, or anything like that at all. I'm just saying, Tony should prove it right or wrong, that way he/we know.

Seems to me everybody is getting hurt feelings about which YouTube guy shares their opinion. Screw feelings, let's figure out if piston flipping actually makes power!!!

Its irrelevant if you are trying to make power you'd have zero offset pistons. You wouldn't be dicking around with a low compression, flat top offset pistoned 318. It becomes a moot point like farmers racing tractors.

 

[rumblefish360]

He did state the ONLY new parts allowed would be a gasket set. I'd just go get a junkyard 5.2 magnum, set the 2 barrel intake on it, hack drill a few bolt holes to hold it down, and easily win this challenge against his 72 318

In this challenge, I think I’d have to via for a little wiggle room on the ability for new rings and crank/rod bearings.
Just incase what ever I open up is trashed.

If someone claims something is true, then someone replies prove it, then shouldn't the person making the claim of truth be the one who proves it?!

I'm not saying it doesn't make power, or that the Ramchargers were wrong, or RK is right, or anything like that at all. I'm just saying, Tony should prove it right or wrong, that way he/we know.

Seems to me everybody is getting hurt feelings about which YouTube guy shares their opinion. Screw feelings, let's figure out if piston flipping actually makes power!!!

The facts don’t care about your feelings...

 

[318willrun]

I'm not picking sides, UTG is just playing around with junk, why doesn't he run his 383 Road Runner down the track? Or that Swinger Or the 340 Satellite/ Roadrunner he has sitting there, I think he has a 67 Belvedere also. The guy has competitive equipment I mean he could build a riding mower up for the drags and the riding mower folks would subscribe...then it would be bickering over Honda, Briggs, Tecumseh and Predator powerplants

LOL... ok, he doesn't have to run his RR (you are wrong again, its a 400 in the RR). And that would prove what??? What have you posted for ET's here on lately??? This would make you a troll..... LOL Have fun, good buddy

 

[318willrun]

If someone claims something is true, then someone replies prove it, then shouldn't the person making the claim of truth be the one who proves it?!

I'm not saying it doesn't make power, or that the Ramchargers were wrong, or RK is right, or anything like that at all. I'm just saying, Tony should prove it right or wrong, that way he/we know.

Seems to me everybody is getting hurt feelings about which YouTube guy shares their opinion. Screw feelings, let's figure out if piston flipping actually makes power!!!

So, every thread here on FABO when somebody posts a suggestion or experience to help somebody else, I get to say "prove it" and they MUST go and duplicate the claim and prove it??? You are going to do that as well for me, right????

 

[rumblefish360]

Oh oh..... the **** slinging is starting...

 

[Dartswinger70]

Oh oh..... the **** slinging is starting...

We should leave that up to UTG and RK LOL! UT did call them "cupcake" at one point in his vid he's was like "Ok cupcake..."

 

[rumblefish360]

I laughed my *** off when he said that.
Sooooooooooo NY’er of him.
Such a down state NY’er set of words.

 

[318willrun]

With the econo W2 heads, only the rockers are unique. The reason they were called "econo" heads, was solely due to the fact that they use the same valves, springs, retainers, and rocker shafts as standard X/J/O/U heads. So it would be way cheaper to put a complete setup together.

someone disagreed with this post ^^of yours, but I don't read where you proved it. You need to get out RIGHT NOW and prove it. I know you'd never hold anyone to a standard you didn't hold yourself to. So, go prove it. Make a video, live demonstration. Get busy...

 

[Dartswinger70]

I laughed my *** off when he said that.
Sooooooooooo NY’er of him.
Such a down state NY’er set of words.

Oh yeah the whole eastern seaboard is "cocky" as compared to the rest of the country. I grew up around Philly, we aren't as cocky as NY but close LOL!

 

[vntned]

Ok 318WR, yeah. If somebody makes a claim, and you say "prove it", than that person should either prove it, or take serious offense and say "you prove it", then divide the Mopar world between to factions to get more YouTube clicks and views while never verifying wether the original claim is based in fact or opinion.


Or maybe just don't get your feelings hurt when somebody disagrees with your opinion???


And if I've made statements and been proven wrong, I just except it as me being wrong. We all make mistakes, why get butthurt over it?!

And why didn't you include the rest of the post where I admitted potential falacy with my additional statements? I said something that I thought was right, when challenged, I held my tongue and decided I needed to do some more reading.

 

[Dartswinger70]

Think about what it would take for UTG to prove it, the actual work of tearing the engine down is nothing, and a set of gaskets. He would need an engine dyno, plus transport the engine there. Its doable but he'd have to spend money. I don't think UTG is worried about being wrong but he might be. Right now about all Tony is saying is, "well all the old MP books said to do it..." or something to that effect. Also factor in that he has a schedule in his head and getting sidetracked with this piston flipping dyno series of videos may not be the direction he has planned to be going in.

 

[rumblefish360]

Oh yeah the whole eastern seaboard is "cocky" as compared to the rest of the country. I grew up around Philly, we aren't as cocky as NY but close LOL!

That and a few other non-flattering nouns....
LMAO!
I know a few guys I can’t even be around with what pours outta there mouth. Not that there has people, but the sheer arrogance combined with that cocky attitude while making insinuative low brow remarks that have zero bearing on the issue at hand... or on subject...., super juvenile!
Total waste of time conversing.