70 dart 470 ci drag car build.
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mopowers
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What part of the cage do you need photos of? I'm just a hack, but I've got a bunch of photos of my '66 Dart build.
Any and all mounting points, well basically main hoop area
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I just got done talking to Rat bastid and I think I came up with a solution I will do a 2 by 3 steel sub frame connector and do some additional out riggers that weld to the sill, then I can tie my frame into a solid frame instead of my weak pitted rear floor area, I can tie that floor in a lot easier without trying to fill up gaps with magma lol
mopowers
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I'll dig some up of my turd. Stand by...
Appreciate it , thanks
mopowers
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I did mine how you describe above. If you do go with outriggers, I'm recommend having them land on a small piece of 1/8" plate against the inner rocker instead of just welding them to the rocker sheet metal.
Kick ***, thank you kindly that is a huge help.
That looks like it's going to be a fun car
mopowers
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Sure thing. Happy to help!
One more thing - make sure you've got the seat you plan to use before you burn in the main hoop and harness bar. I ended up going a different route for a seat and wish the main hoop was just a tad further back. It'll work, but the harness bar prevents the seat from moving back as much as I'd prefer.
I have my kirkey and did a little test fitting with a 4 by 12 underneath it and it was hard to see over the dash lol and I'm 6 foot 2. I'm going to make a frame out of square tubing and set it up about 5 inches high off the floor pan, there's something about seeing where Im going that just feels safe.
Finally got a decent size compressor at home, that makes life easier. Only thing worse than using a electric grinder or cut off wheels in tight spaces is when they kick back and explode a disk in your face. I'm going to be using my plasma cutter for rough cutting everything now.
Also get to hogging out my intake manifold and weld the runners up and port the skrit out of it too.
Also get to hogging out my intake manifold and weld the runners up and port the skrit out of it too.
What did you do to fix any wide gaps ? Just weld some sheet metal to the floor and to the 2 by 3 .
This is a bigger pain in the butt than I expected, passenger side should be better though.
I'll keep the 1st subframe connector as a template since I hit it with the cut off wheel a few times. I'll be glad when this is done lol
Rat Bastid
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You wouldn’t be having all this trouble IF you let the pups out to supervise your work. They wouldn’t let you get in trouble.
My sister in law is here she's hogging the pups.
Rat Bastid
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At least they are getting spoiled. It’s slowing you down not having them out there though.
Lol, I've learned from watching your wreckless dogs.
They're still too small. They don't have safety glasses and they're not as smart as my cats
Matter of fact shadow can't even be out there. He gets in a trance and he won't leave me alone
mopowers
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Anything about 3/16" or less, I was able to fill with my MIG. Just crank the wire speed up and go in spurts, letting the previous weld cool before zapping another one. There were two spots where I miss-measured that I had to patch with sheet metal. The one on the main hoop, I made a patch and butt welded it (first photo). The other spot (front outrigger), I made a patch and overlapped it by 1/2" or so. I just made sure to seam seal the under side to prevent water getting into the overlapped area on the bottom. I'm kinda anal retentive about that. Hope this helps.
Absolutely, big help again. I appreciate you!!!
Oh also when I'm welding in the out riggers do I have to use an entire 6 by 6 eighth in plate or can I just use 3 by 4 ?
Crap, I thought this sent an hour ago !
Again also, the bar that is going down by the main hoop is there any particular angle that has to be for certification?
mopowers
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Here are the specs required for the "D" bars. They don't specify an angle, but require either a 6x6" plate or that they land on some type of frame member.
mopowers
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There is no spec for a plate for the outrigger to land on - at least to my knowledge. I'd just use common sense. Maybe make it ~2" larger than the outrigger tubing in each direction so it hangs out about an 1" in each direction - provided there's enough room. That seems reasonable to me.
mopowers
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One more thing for that "D" bar. If you're building an SFI spec cage, look up those specs. I just went by NHRA for mine, and that's where the screen shots above are taken from.
Thank you, yeah I couldn't find anything about outriggers either so I'll just use 6 by 6 just in case...I'd hate to have to rip **** out
mopowers
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Do you have room for a full 6"x6" plate on the inner rocker.
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