Cost for labor on stroker build?

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I can't break down labor and parts yet, but I can tell you that 600 hp on a W2 headed 416 costs north of $15k.
 
junkyardhero said:
you know why nobody takes you seriously and you get clowned on all the time?

this. this is why dan.

>"this motor was built to spin 8K"
>"ebay parts"
>suspiciously cheap machine work costs
>"i believe"
>three angle valve job w/ a back cut (c'mon you're just regurgitating info here)
>truck block, high nickel content, H beam rods (*snerk*)
>"i think, i wish i could remember, i don't remember the exact details, i don't know for sure, etc, etc, etc.

it don't matter if you got a smokin' deal on the parts or you're a damn good mechanic, when those parts won't even support 600hp.

come with proof or you just talkin' jive and takin' us for a ride.
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After all this motor was done about 6 years ago. Ad far as eBay stores go. They are just like the other mail order stores that is used by most on here. I wasn't there the whole time he was building his car
 
BrianT said:
I can't break down labor and parts yet, but I can tell you that 600 hp on a W2 headed 416 costs north of $15k.
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That's because it's a mopar. Like I mentioned earlier this build was like 5 years ago.
 
Dan the man said:
That's because it's a mopar. Like I mentioned earlier this build was like 5 years ago.
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Why are you arguing ?

What your saying makes no sense and doesn't help the OP anyways.

If that's what your (imaginary?) buddy told you fair enough but it's obviously bullshit and even if it wasn't the level of proof you would need to present cause of all your past bullshit would be near impossible and in the end of the day this helps no one especially the OP.

Stop all this nonsense like buying a car, no one believes you and even if you are gonna, surprise us when you do, stop taking us along on these imaginary exercises or at least contain them to your own threads.

I'm not saying you can't participate you don't have to own an A Body to like them and enjoy talking about them, just be real and stop hijacking every thread with your non sense.
 
Dan the man said:
That's because it's a mopar. Like I mentioned earlier this build was like 5 years ago.
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when you get into power levels like that the curve of price point flattens considerably.

.... unless it's BPO. that ****'s always gonna be a mint no matter.

anyway, you'd know that if you ever built anything. but instead you parrot questionable secondhand information from your sister's boyfriends best friend that one time had the fastest big block chevelle in the tri-county area.
 
junkyardhero said:
you know why nobody takes you seriously and you get clowned on all the time?

this. this is why dan.

>"this motor was built to spin 8K"
>"ebay parts"
>suspiciously cheap machine work costs
>"i believe"
>three angle valve job w/ a back cut (c'mon you're just regurgitating info here)
>truck block, high nickel content, H beam rods (*snerk*)
>"i think, i wish i could remember, i don't remember the exact details, i don't know for sure, etc, etc, etc.

it don't matter if you got a smokin' deal on the parts or you're a damn good mechanic, when those parts won't even support 600hp.

come with proof or you just talkin' jive and takin' us for a ride.
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I give up. So you don't think that forged pistons, rods, steel crankshaft, balanced, blue printed oil pump, 4 bolt mains, windage t
junkyardhero said:
when you get into power levels like that the curve of price point flattens considerably.

.... unless it's BPO. that ****'s always gonna be a mint no matter.

anyway, you'd know that if you ever built anything. but instead you parrot questionable secondhand information from your sister's boyfriends best friend that one time had the fastest big block chevelle in the tri-county area.
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Sounds like you had to much rum. I never mentioned anything about my sister at all. To set the record straight, I was talking about my friend Randy who I've known for like 40 years now. I'll see if I can get the exact details from him concerning the cylinder heads used their intake valve and exhaust valve sizes as well as the intake runner size and combustion chamber size, also I'll see if I can get information on the cam he ran. I was only making conversation about a build that I know about and you guys go nuts. How can you say that this or that is impossible or it never happened when you and others were not there
 
Dan the man said:
I give up. So you don't think that forged pistons, rods, steel crankshaft, balanced, blue printed oil pump, 4 bolt mains, windage t

Sounds like you had to much rum. I never mentioned anything about my sister at all. To set the record straight, I was talking about my friend Randy who I've known for like 40 years now. I'll see if I can get the exact details from him concerning the cylinder heads used their intake valve and exhaust valve sizes as well as the intake runner size and combustion chamber size, also I'll see if I can get information on the cam he ran. I was only making conversation about a build that I know about and you guys go nuts. How can you say that this or that is impossible or it never happened when you and others were not there
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*woosh*

^^ that there? that's the sound of everything going over your head.

okay, so, we cannot suspend disbelief because of your past levels of chicanery. you can't even keep the story straight or the timeline, well, in line.

come up with that parts list and them specs and maybe i see it another way. but now you have time to relitigate it and come up with some phony baloney oscar meyer.

so unless you were there, at the dyno and have a print out of the dyno sheet? i'm saying that your friend randy is stretching the truth with that hp claim.

there are specific things that are, indeed, impossible. due to you know, physics. for instance, you're not going to make more than x amount of hp with size y intake runner, or carb, or valve, etc, etc, etc. that's fact. and that doesn't change whether i'm there in the room or on mars.

also: blue printed oil pump? yeah, there's the magic to that 650hp 3700 wonder machine. all this time i didn't know that. stop regurgitating information that you heard or read or dreamt up in the wonder world of science according to dan the man.
 
junkyardhero said:
*woosh*

^^ that there? that's the sound of everything going over your head.

okay, so, we cannot suspend disbelief because of your past levels of chicanery. you can't even keep the story straight or the timeline, well, in line.

come up with that parts list and them specs and maybe i see it another way. but now you have time to relitigate it and come up with some phony baloney oscar meyer.

so unless you were there, at the dyno and have a print out of the dyno sheet? i'm saying that your friend randy is stretching the truth with that hp claim.

there are specific things that are, indeed, impossible. due to you know, physics. for instance, you're not going to make more than x amount of hp with size y intake runner, or carb, or valve, etc, etc, etc. that's fact. and that doesn't change whether i'm there in the room or on mars.

also: blue printed oil pump? yeah, there's the magic to that 650hp 3700 wonder machine. all this time i didn't know that. stop regurgitating information that you heard or read or dreamt up in the wonder world of science according to dan the man.
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Sorry, I didn't know that this forum was only for the elite engine builder/ tuner. I didn't stray from what I originally said about the build. Also I didn't know that you guys don't believe in general conversation of any kind. I doubt that anyone here can produce a dyno read out or a parts list on a engine that was done years ago, they probably couldn't find one for a current build. As for as what I said about what I know about the 318's is mostly what I learned on here and you cut me down on that as well. Just because I don't have a dozen cars or a 340 or 2 doesn't mean that I don't understand some of what it takes to make power. Have a good day and think on what I've said
 
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Dan the man said:
Sorry, I didn't know that this forum was only for the elite engine builder/ tuner. I didn't stray from what I originally said about the build. Also I didn't know that you guys don't believe in general conversation of any kind. I doubt that anyone here can produce a dyno read out or a parts list on a engine that was done years ago, they probably couldn't find one for a current build. Have a good day and think on what I've said
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it's not a forum for elite engine builders and tuners, but come prepared to back up your claims when you lay down something that is toward the outside of believable.

but you want receipts? here ya go:
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some of us are fastidious with paperwork.

(please disregard the messiness of my "work bench")
 
matt030305 said:
Oh geez, at that point I might be better off building up the top end. Never realized how expensive it would get doing a stroker kit. I’m looking for something that’s very street able but can get me bragging rights. Thank you all for your input and help!
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I saw a tube where a 360 was stroked to 408, all else the same, only had 34 more hp
 
Brooks James said:
I saw a tube where a 360 was stroked to 408, all else the same, only had 34 more hp
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Don't forget they added about 2 points of cr, stock magnum cr to edit* 10.73:1 .
Everything thing else was the same other than displacement and cr.


5.9l 305hp/414tq vs 408 334hp/490tq

 
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Dan the man said:
You can think that if you want to. I'll see what size intake runner's those heads have. The engine was designed and built to spin to 7500-8000 rpm's. This guy knows his stuff.
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Sounds like you need a Nova or Crapmaro Dan. The Chevy boards needs ya too.
 
junkyardhero said:
*woosh*

^^ that there? that's the sound of everything going over your head.

okay, so, we cannot suspend disbelief because of your past levels of chicanery. you can't even keep the story straight or the timeline, well, in line.

come up with that parts list and them specs and maybe i see it another way. but now you have time to relitigate it and come up with some phony baloney oscar meyer.

so unless you were there, at the dyno and have a print out of the dyno sheet? i'm saying that your friend randy is stretching the truth with that hp claim.

there are specific things that are, indeed, impossible. due to you know, physics. for instance, you're not going to make more than x amount of hp with size y intake runner, or carb, or valve, etc, etc, etc. that's fact. and that doesn't change whether i'm there in the room or on mars.

also: blue printed oil pump? yeah, there's the magic to that 650hp 3700 wonder machine. all this time i didn't know that. stop regurgitating information that you heard or read or dreamt up in the wonder world of science according to dan the man.
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Everything Dan post is about what he read, or heard 2 or 3rd hand.
When he post I always think of Kristy Swanson in Ferris Buller
 
junkyardhero said:
it's not a forum for elite engine builders and tuners, but come prepared to back up your claims when you lay down something that is toward the outside of believable.

but you want receipts? here ya go:
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from this
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*enhance*
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some of us are fastidious with paperwork.

(please disregard the messiness of my "work bench")
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Good collection of paperwork. 400 horsepower 318 with bolt ons, what bolt ons? Probably all high dollar stuff
 
273 said:
Don't forget they added about 2 points of cr, stock magnum cr to edit* 10.73:1 .
Everything thing else was the same other than displacement and cr.


5.9l 305hp/414tq vs 408 334hp/490tq

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That extra 76 lbs of tq is worth it
 
Dan the man said:
That's because it's a mopar. Like I mentioned earlier this build was like 5 years ago.
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So you don't remember, or just don't know?
My vote is don't know, never knew....
And if tha Mopar Tax is something you can't or won't pay, get a Chevy.
Might have a few on an eBay Store......
 
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