For anyone who has swapped a 340 with manual transmission into a 66 Dart

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Kendog 170 said:
Some more info.
correct z bar for early a body SB 4spd
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Here is a photo (looking in from the driver side wheel well) showing the 67 and up position of the ball stud mount.

Has anyone modified a 66 or earlier to accept this plate? How did you know where to locate it?

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Simple answer you bolt it on. You are going to want to use the correct early A mount for the swap. Save yourself a lot of time and call brewers. that way you can answer all the questions needed in one conversation instead of a thousand posts here.

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straying from the stock mount and using/modifying a 67 and up style piece takes a hard turn into modifying and customizing everything else in the whole apparatus. the z, the push rod, the bell mount, all that jazz.

which you then start veering into no-mans land.

getting a 4spd into the early cars it hard enough as it is, and dicking around with a mish-mosh of parts is just inviting headache after headache. and some ballaches for good measure.
 
Just locate the stock Z bar bracket in the correct place, mark and drill the holes and bolt it on. What's the issue?
 
66Dartdriver said:
Simple answer you bolt it on. You are going to want to use the correct early A mount for the swap. Save yourself a lot of time and call brewers. that way you can answer all the questions needed in one conversation instead of a thousand posts here.

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So if I get this part from Brewers, and I swap it for the existing part, the 67 pieces will bolt up?
 
Red Coupe said:
So if I get this part from Brewers, and I swap it for the existing part, the 67 pieces will bolt up?
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No.

You're not going to use '67-up parts, you're going to use '64-'66 parts. The '67 and later parts are a completely different arrangement. They don't interchange, so put those out of your mind.

The factory bellhousing for your car was a cast-iron unit for a 9.5" clutch. If you're trying to use a later 10.5" bellhousing, that's another reason to call Brewer's. They have the engine-side ball stud and anything else you'll need to make the later, large bellhousing work with the 1964-'66 parts. They can even advise you on the required floor modifications. They're very helpful, friendly folks who can tell you, and provide, exactly what you need to get your 4-speed dialed.
 
NoCar340 said:
No.

You're not going to use '67-up parts, you're going to use '64-'66 parts. The '67 and later parts are a completely different arrangement. They don't interchange, so put those out of your mind.

The factory bellhousing for your car was a cast-iron unit for a 9.5" clutch. If you're trying to use a later 10.5" bellhousing, that's another reason to call Brewer's. They have the engine-side ball stud and anything else you'll need to make the later, large bellhousing work with the 1964-'66 parts. They can even advise you on the required floor modifications. They're very helpful, friendly folks who can tell you, and provide, exactly what you need to get your 4-speed dialed.
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I am using the 10.5 bell. OK, so the modification is on the bell side not the frame side. I'll get hold of Brewers tomorrow. Thanks!
 
Red Coupe said:
I am using the 10.5 bell. OK, so the modification is on the bell side not the frame side. I'll get hold of Brewers tomorrow. Thanks!
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No, it's everything. The '67 plate isn't made to fit an early-A, the part 66Dartdriver posted is the body ball-stud bracket assy., & You need an early-A Z-bar/rod. Early-A's are ~2.5" narrower front frame rail-to-rail, which makes it ~1.25" short on that side, hence the links posted above.
 
RustyRatRod said:
Just locate the stock Z bar bracket in the correct place, mark and drill the holes and bolt it on. What's the issue?
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He doesn't have a stock anything for a '66, He's trying to stick '67 parts in a '66......
 
Hey guys, here's some closure on this thread. The car is an original 4 barrel/4 speed car that just received a 340. Due to the additional power/torque I installed the 143 tooth flywheel and 10.5" clutch which requires the bigger bell. The only part I could reuse was the fender-side Z bar mount.

To make a long story short, Brewer's Performance does sell all the clutch linkage parts needed to make the swap. Dan was super helpful, to the point of fabbing me up a Z bar on the spot. I've attached some pictures & a parts list for the swap.

Appreciate the input!

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Red Coupe said:
Hey guys, here's some closure on this thread. The car is an original 4 barrel/4 speed car that just received a 340. Due to the additional power/torque I installed the 143 tooth flywheel and 10.5" clutch which requires the bigger bell. The only part I could reuse was the fender-side Z bar mount...
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Pretty sure you mean 130 tooth flywheel.
 
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