Lightweight flywheel options and selection criteria.

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Newbomb Turk said:
I’m not smarter, I’m just not afraid.

Just because someone on here says not to distant mean **** to me.

Maybe you need to figure out why this bothers you.

Are you pissed because you fall into the category of non tuner?

Do you love birth control clutches?

Do you even own a car with a clutch in it?

It’s not that I’m smarter. It’s I don’t let internet bullies intimidate me.

Get over it and learn to tune. Better yet, get a stick car and show me why YOU can run an aluminum flywheel.
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I have a stick car, 440 with A833 and a Brewers flywheel balanced for a cast 440 which I don't believe there is an aluminum option for, and if there is, not worth the cost spread for how little I bomb around in the Duster.

I just really enjoy getting a rise out of you and your wacky logic. For someone as smart, progressive, confident, and loony as you are its entertaining that you cannot seem to ignore the internet bullies. Or, ignore people like me who don't do or say weird stuff to look smart and belittle everyone else as a dinosaur.... Oh and Happy New Year!
 
My Demon weighs 3140 on a track scale. 833 4 speed. When I tried a Centerforce aluminum flywheel, it was only 560ish HP, with 4:10 rear. It was herky jerky at low speed.......I'm talking like 40 MPH just cruising in 4th. Annoying as all hell. Always had to run a gear lower to get the revs up to stop the jerkiness. It's driven a lot of street miles, so NO GO alum flywheel for that.

at that time, I was hitting the track very occasionally and it was a ***** to launch. 2 step at 4000, it bogged. raise it to 4500 and it blew the tires off. I never got a real good chance to track tune it, cause eventually I got the old "you're done sonny". No roll bar.

Went back to a lightweight steel, can't recall which one, but 2 step at 4000 gave me a decent 60 foot. no bog, just enough spin.

Now at 600 ish, same steel wheel, 4500 launch on pavement ( not track) after a nice burnout and you're gone. I think the aluminum would bog.

This is my own real world experience with my car with me driving. Could be someone else has great results with them. Mine is in my shed if anyone's interested.
 
Muswagon said:
I have a stick car, 440 with A833 and a Brewers flywheel balanced for a cast 440 which I don't believe there is an aluminum option for, and if there is, not worth the cost spread for how little I bomb around in the Duster.

I just really enjoy getting a rise out of you and your wacky logic. For someone as smart, progressive, confident, and loony as you are its entertaining that you cannot seem to ignore the internet bullies. Or, ignore people like me who don't do or say weird stuff to look smart and belittle everyone else as a dinosaur.... Oh and Happy New Year!
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I just don’t ignore the guys who say something can’t be done.

And you can buy bolt on weights for cast cranks for an aluminum flywheel.

For you, it’s not worth an aluminum flywheel.

For someone who doesn’t have a flywheel and has a long stroke then say no reason to not use an aluminum flywheel.

Because it can be done and they will drive IF you don’t have a toggle switch clutch and you can tune.
 
Ironmike said:
My Demon weighs 3140 on a track scale. 833 4 speed. When I tried a Centerforce aluminum flywheel, it was only 560ish HP, with 4:10 rear. It was herky jerky at low speed.......I'm talking like 40 MPH just cruising in 4th. Annoying as all hell. Always had to run a gear lower to get the revs up to stop the jerkiness. It's driven a lot of street miles, so NO GO alum flywheel for that.

at that time, I was hitting the track very occasionally and it was a ***** to launch. 2 step at 4000, it bogged. raise it to 4500 and it blew the tires off. I never got a real good chance to track tune it, cause eventually I got the old "you're done sonny". No roll bar.

Went back to a lightweight steel, can't recall which one, but 2 step at 4000 gave me a decent 60 foot. no bog, just enough spin.

Now at 600 ish, same steel wheel, 4500 launch on pavement ( not track) after a nice burnout and you're gone. I think the aluminum would bog.

This is my own real world experience with my car with me driving. Could be someone else has great results with them. Mine is in my shed if anyone's interested.
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What kind of timing curve were you using??

The first thing I think of when I hear at 40 mph it’s bucking I think timing.
 
Ironmike said:
My Demon weighs 3140 on a track scale. 833 4 speed. When I tried a Centerforce aluminum flywheel, it was only 560ish HP, with 4:10 rear. It was herky jerky at low speed.......I'm talking like 40 MPH just cruising in 4th. Annoying as all hell. Always had to run a gear lower to get the revs up to stop the jerkiness. It's driven a lot of street miles, so NO GO alum flywheel for that.

at that time, I was hitting the track very occasionally and it was a ***** to launch. 2 step at 4000, it bogged. raise it to 4500 and it blew the tires off. I never got a real good chance to track tune it, cause eventually I got the old "you're done sonny". No roll bar.

Went back to a lightweight steel, can't recall which one, but 2 step at 4000 gave me a decent 60 foot. no bog, just enough spin.

Now at 600 ish, same steel wheel, 4500 launch on pavement ( not track) after a nice burnout and you're gone. I think the aluminum would bog.

This is my own real world experience with my car with me driving. Could be someone else has great results with them. Mine is in my shed if anyone's interested.
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What clutch and engine displacement? Thanks for sharing.
 
YOU are like a toggle switch, its yes/no or on/off with ya... I have never said something cannot be done, I have always said either why do it, or you shouldn't do it....
 
well, Newbomb....you're gonna LOVE my timing curve! 33 degrees LOCKED. I tried all kinds of curves and it wants 33 degrees period.

and for cpearce, it's a 360, .040 whatever that is. 410? i think....

My clutch and P plate came from American Powertrain. Gave them my numbers and they set me up in about 2 weeks. I'm pretty sure the clutch is sintered iron. I could be wrong. It's been awhile. When it's time to replace, i would get the same set up from them. Love it!

Couple pics for no good reason.
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Ironmike said:
well, Newbomb....you're gonna LOVE my timing curve! 33 degrees LOCKED. I tried all kinds of curves and it wants 33 degrees period.

and for cpearce, it's a 360, .040 whatever that is. 410? i think....

My clutch and P plate came from American Powertrain. Gave them my numbers and they set me up in about 2 weeks. I'm pretty sure the clutch is sintered iron. I could be wrong. It's been awhile. When it's time to replace, i would get the same set up from them. Love it!

Couple pics for no good reason.
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Sharp car. Not so sure about the valve covers but to each his own.
 
I would never run a 22# flywheel in a 3700 pound car. You need the inertia to get it rolling.

I would just get a steel 30# unit and call it a day. I think you'll be very sorry if you go with a 22# unit.

Tom
 
PROSTOCKTOM said:
I would never run a 22# flywheel in a 3700 pound car. You need the inertia to get it rolling.

I would just get a steel 30# unit and call it a day. I think you'll be very sorry if you go with a 22# unit.

Tom
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I agree. That seems really heavy to me. I know nothing about E bodies, other than I'd like one with a mild engine, auto trans and A/C. For those really hot days in August.
 
Ironmike said:
I agree. That seems really heavy to me. I know nothing about E bodies, other than I'd like one with a mild engine, auto trans and A/C. For those really hot days in August.
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I guess that number is a touch high. Curb weight was 3400 lbs but throw my big butt in there and a tool kit and you’re at 3700.
 
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