bahahah there was soo much in that video that i forgot about that... i mean.. when i was 16 i did that ****.. i would have even understood a hammer crimper tool or something... it did get the job done though
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RAMM
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The software comes on a disk but is also available for free from their website. The cable I use is a simple USB to serial adapter, very very easy to use.
I can't remember exactly how I programmed it but I usually like working with nice round numbers. What I probably did is set base timing @ 40 total, with the distributor locked out. That way , if I find it runs best at 30 degrees, I subtract 10 degrees with the software and shape the curve. I may have it idling at 20 degrees which means I pulled 20 with the software. It's really slick and easy to test this way. Wanna try 34 degrees? Easy just subtract 6 degrees and dyno it. You don't even have to pickup a timing light once you've verified the base setting.
So in the video, when they try it @ "32" , depending on the rpm he sees 32 at and the shape of the curve, as the engine gets to a higher rpm it may access another 10 degrees so now it's actually @ 42 degrees. I suspect this is what's going on with the peak hp being much lower and sooner at 5900 rpm. The engine is doing too much negative work-hence the power drop off. J.Rob
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
That’s the biggest thing I took away from the video. Any time you see a programmable box you have to assume the distributor is locked out and timing is synced to the box. ALL adjustments are done electronically, NOT at the distributor. Some guys should stick to restorations.
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I mean, doesn't everyone use a hammer to adjust the timing?
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
Only guys that crimp battery cables with Vice grips.
RAMM
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Love how he asks his camera man where his hammer was , like he should've had it in his back pocket or something. J.Rob
PRH
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It was showing noticeable gains each time the timing got reduced…….. he should have kept going.
How much raw fuel was dumped into that engine? You caint compress liquid. Can you say compromised head gaskets? I'm really surprised they didn't hydrolock it.
I actually do. I turn it around backwards and gently tap on the vacuum can one way or the other with the wooden handle. It's kinda hard to get to on a slant 6. lol
PRH
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I thought the camera guy did produce the hammer.
I was wondering that myself, especially after the 1st video you think you'd go completely through the entire setup to make sure, expensive engine to F up.
Dartswinger70
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Yup and how many "318 rebuild " or "will it run" videos have to be made? the way people copy each other on YT got old quick also...I'd rather be in the garage playing around with my own LA engine than watching it on TV...
The "Will it run" videos used to actually be ok, it would be like a locked up 1957 ford or somethign in a field.. now it's like "we found a 1984 ford crown vic in a heated garage!!!" like.. yeah.. it will run now **** off... Every now and then i will see like super old tractor vids or a dozer thats been sitting for 50 years.. i still find that interesting
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Don't know if anyone mentioned this, I wonder how FULL the oil pan might be. 
Being an electrical guy, the vice grip crimping. UGH... If you are going to use the wrong tools, at least go find a monster set of vice grips to crimp that **** instead of those pussy level ones he used.
Being an electrical guy, the vice grip crimping. UGH... If you are going to use the wrong tools, at least go find a monster set of vice grips to crimp that **** instead of those pussy level ones he used.
in the second video he did say he changed the oil..Don't know if anyone mentioned this, I wonder how FULL the oil pan might be.
I did the speed reading version, fast forward and got it done in 10 minutes. Watching the first video was like taking a double dose of my heart drug that knocks off 50 iq points. OOF
d4rt
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This is the part that gets me. Even if the new owner got a good deal, you're still going to lay down a (relatively) large sum of money for an engine like this. If I have information about the last builder that sorted it out and they're only a couple of hours away, my first move is to call them and schedule a time to drop it off to go over everything. Seems like extremely cheap insurance given the overall investment.
Even if I'm on the other side of the continent, my first move is still to call the guy whose name is on the dyno sheet (e.g. RAMM) and get as much information as possible.
Guaranteed this was all planned/scripted from the get go.
PRH
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You’re not paying attention.
There is an ignition advance curve programmed into the box.
If you can’t access the curve in the box to see what it is(need a laptop), then the only way you’ll really know what the timing is doing at high rpm is to put a light on it…….. and run it up to the upper limit of the test.
TT5.9mag
Two atmospheres are better than one
Don’t you mean “hit the distributor with a hammer, then fire it up and hammer on it”?
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