Beef is like gas here....cheap.
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dukeboy440
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yeah. last time I went to Denver, we stopped on the way back and loaded a cooler full of steaks for 2 bucks a piece from a butcher there.
I've has some Omaha Steaks. Good stuff. https://www.omahasteaks.com/servlet...UP0CJnuq-tGdEcC07K3aab5YVAWoZCZoaAlWQEALw_wcB
There use to be a place off I-70 in Western Kansas, $9.99 for all the 8oz steaks you could eat. If you didn't eat the second one or more then you paid for two.
One trucker held the record ate 9 at one sitting. WTF I bet he didn't crap for a week.
One trucker held the record ate 9 at one sitting. WTF I bet he didn't crap for a week.
zkx14
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Not sure about beef price, but gas continues to drop. Paid 2.26/gal yesterday.
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dukeboy440
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1.98 this morning! bad news is, the last time this dropped, we also had a massive stock market crash and recession. We've had the market losses, now are we in a recession yet or not? That is the question looming.
Still 3.45 here. diesel 3.89
zkx14
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Wow!, why so much higher there? I think we still have one of the highest gas tax rates.
zkx14
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Looked it up. These were July's #s. Don't know if any change since then. PA is highest at 58.70 cents per gal. CA is 2nd at 55.22
zkx14
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IA is at 30.50c /gal. But you guys still have dirt roads and no bridges, right?
dukeboy440
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Ours just changed in July to being a percentage vs a fixed amount. I want to say its 10-11%.IA is at 30.50c /gal. But you guys still have dirt roads and no bridges, right?
dukeboy440
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diesel here is still 3.75... hasn't gone up or down more than 5 cents in 6 months. makes no sense
zkx14
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zkx14
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Actually it kind of does. Diesel is basically the same as #2 heating oil so tends to go up in colder months. Although I believe they have stayed pretty stable this year as gasoline dropped.
No #1 in the nation for infrastructure.IA is at 30.50c /gal. But you guys still have dirt roads and no bridges, right?
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/iowa
dukeboy440
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ours changed, it was a big public nightmare and lots of people got pissed about it
Easy to keep the roads nice when you only have 3!
zkx14
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Unconventional
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Good morning. Another frosty one here. Ca's big gas tax was a big issue when they first installed it back a few years ago, and then again at election time with a referendum to remove it on the ballot. Apparently voters saw the improvement in their roadways and decided that ditching it wasn't such a good idea. I still question that high speed rail project they mandated. It is under construction, but the first phase's location raises a lot of questions. Personally I don't see it ever paying for itself. Might be a fun project to work though.
zkx14
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PA isn't quite in the top 10 for road total mileage. Not sure where we rank for the amount of that maintained by the state. While some of the heaviest traffic areas may be actual wear and tear, I think the freeze thaw cycle is a huge factor compared to most of the states that have more road miles.
dukeboy440
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i think what happened with ours is that it went from being based on strictly a 10 cents per gallon sales tax to a 10% plus a penny for inflation each year going forward. Then there's the environmental tax on it too but that stayed the same. So that 49 cents may not be far off. Like I said, it just changed in july.
Unconventional
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Freeze Thaw. That was always a not so popular issue between Asphalt producers and Caltrans. Caltrans spec book said to use an asphalt oil that is more flexible for that issue EVERYWHERE in the state. Not so good in areas that only see a dozen freezes/year (barely freezing at that) and temps over 95 for 6 months of the year. The flexible oil tends to soften in temps like that and the roads rut badly. A neighboring village overlayed a good portion of their city streets and used Caltrans specs. I as an operator, the contractor, our sales peeps, and our lab peeps warned them of the outcome before we started the project. "You know, at every stop sign or signal light that stuff will melt and you'll get humps and ruts and we'll be back doing it allover again in 2 years? Right?" Sure enough, the next summer we were digging that 1 year old AC out and replacing it with material that was more suitable for stop and go traffic. "Well that's what the book said to use so we did". "That's how they do it in Europe" was one of the lame excuses I got from a Caltrans engineer once.
dukeboy440
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I dont by the whole freeze and thaw thing. Ive been to Europe, which gets colder winters and as hot as summers as we do. Their roads are nearly flawless. granted their taxes are higher but I think its in the materials we use. I'm no engineer but asphalt doesnt hold up well at all. Hell, race tracks have to repave every few years.
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