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This can serve as a warning for everyone. We might be better off asking about potential obstacles before buying and installing things that we have not done before. It sucks to learn the hard way. It does seem that they aren't going to be UP FRONT about their products like they should.
We will have to start asking questions if we want to get in front of the problems instead of getting surprised by them.
 
Your comments are very tiresome. There's nothing to back them up. You do it to irritate people and be the one that has to be right. To also make others feel less than you. Sounds like trauma. What a miserable existence.
You want to send him into the next stratosphere... ask him for a time slip....Bahahahahahahahaha...
 
Dave hughes, if that's who you were dealing with has always been known to be an asshole.
I almost bought a cam shaft... sent my stock one off to get reground after dealing with them. Still the only place to get a lot of things though. I just sent an email of all the specs they asked for about the car and they acted like they don't ask for that.
 
only 8 pages?

this displeases me greatly.

even boo-sheet 318 threads hit 10 on the reg.

Sssss goooo boys. me want justice. me want thunder dome!
 
Dave hughes, if that's who you were dealing with has always been known to be an asshole.

Disagree , he has always been up front with me and very helpful , but their shipping has always been very high , other than that , I have been well pleased with them ...
 
That I fully understand. Had I known, I may have opened up the pushrod holes BEFORE the whole engine was assembled. Well, I learned two lessons. One about pushrod clearance, one about where not to shop.

Pushrod clearance is just a thing with building engines that are not bone stock ...I ended up drilling my victor cnc`d knock offs with a 9/16 drill bit before I got clearance , but they use offset rockers too...just part of engine building .
 
Let's put this into perspective. Take Hughes out the equation. The OP is beating his chest about years of experience. DECADES of experience. To which I'm not doubting. Nor am I doubting that Dave can be "short". The OP has basically already all but admitted to being sloth about not wanting to take the engine apart to make it right. Anyone who has done any semi-serious small Mopar effort, knows that these parts DO NOT just fall together. The reason for Chevy just falling together is the eons of support for the platform. So to banter about 1.6 Chevy roller rockers just falling in, compared to the Mopar that has to be modified, is apples to oranges. Ignorant almost.
 
Disagree , he has always been up front with me and very helpful , but their shipping has always been very high , other than that , I have been well pleased with them ...
I get a feeling of a **** ton of orders and not enough time to deal with folks. The email I got back was weirdly rude and almost seemed like it was meant for someone else
 
Let's put this into perspective. Take Hughes out the equation. The OP is beating his chest about years of experience. DECADES of experience. To which I'm not doubting. Nor am I doubting that Dave can be "short". The OP has basically already all but admitted to being sloth about not wanting to take the engine apart to make it right. Anyone who has done any semi-serious small Mopar effort, knows that these parts DO NOT just fall together. The reason for Chevy just falling together is the eons of support for the platform. So to banter about 1.6 Chevy roller rockers just falling in, compared to the Mopar that has to be modified, is apples to oranges. Ignorant almost.
It sounds like you want to take the subject out of the subject. Just so you know the subject here is customer service...
Let's take the thousand dollars for the parts spent out of the equation, and just talked about how to treat people on the phone....
My parts are great.I'll never do business here again...
 
Let's put this into perspective. Take Hughes out the equation. The OP is beating his chest about years of experience. DECADES of experience. To which I'm not doubting. Nor am I doubting that Dave can be "short". The OP has basically already all but admitted to being sloth about not wanting to take the engine apart to make it right. Anyone who has done any semi-serious small Mopar effort, knows that these parts DO NOT just fall together. The reason for Chevy just falling together is the eons of support for the platform. So to banter about 1.6 Chevy roller rockers just falling in, compared to the Mopar that has to be modified, is apples to oranges. Ignorant almost.
You’re not wrong, and most in here were conveying most that you say. It was a two way street. But it also seems that many have had bad experiences with Dave himself. It should be easy to remove himself from the CS line.. others there are very helpful. And don’t miss the fact that right in the middle of this thread he has a large headed jackass home in. And scold all of us.. unjustifiably. I for one put blame on both sides, yet was completely bashed for no reason. That’s what got this thread off the rails! As the asshat said, “ take that to the bank” ! lol.
 
Customer Service?? Starts with same 2 letters as Cack Soaker:lol:
When the very nicest thing that someone can say is that he's short with them....
Call ken at oregon camgrinding, and I'll eat my hat if he's short with you...
Call ted at portland engine rebuilders.He'll take the time to talk to you.He's been doing this for over fifty years... he's answered these same silly questions day in and day out for more years than I can imagine, and i've asked playing myself..

Subject, being customer service here. I've been doing a headliner project for my truck and I watched this guy on YouTube in Tampa bay.. it was actually a customer filming. The guy doing it and the guy let him completely film him doing his entire headlining... the guy gave tips send helpful instructions and his phone number was broadcast because I showed it on the front of the building.. i have a question for him. Because all these headliners, the phone is always completely decaying, and mine wasn't. It was still pretty strong, but it still had to come off. So I had some questions about it and called him in Florida, and he went on and on making sure that I knew everything that I needed to be helped...
I'm here to say any a member that's in florida and likely the place you may need a new headliner.Please check out headliners Only in tampa... Jay is an awesome guy and super nice..
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Funny you mention Ken at Oregon Cam down in Vancouver Wa. I had him grind a cam for my build that I’m doing now.. there hasn’t been one time that I have called him that he hasn’t had time to talk to me, not only with grace, but also with patience! Super guy that does awesome work..he also helped me with correct springs, and lifters. Mine couldn’t be refaced! I would recommend him and his company to any and all! It really is a no brainer when it comes to cams, to have one ground for your exact specifications, instead of buying one out of a box that is suppose to work for many applications! He is a very good example you gave!
 
It sounds like you want to take the subject out of the subject. Just so you know the subject here is customer service...
Let's take the thousand dollars for the parts spent out of the equation, and just talked about how to treat people on the phone....
My parts are great.I'll never do business here again...
Just keep me on ignore, please.....
 
Let's put this into perspective. Take Hughes out the equation. The OP is beating his chest about years of experience. DECADES of experience. To which I'm not doubting. Nor am I doubting that Dave can be "short". The OP has basically already all but admitted to being sloth about not wanting to take the engine apart to make it right. Anyone who has done any semi-serious small Mopar effort, knows that these parts DO NOT just fall together. The reason for Chevy just falling together is the eons of support for the platform. So to banter about 1.6 Chevy roller rockers just falling in, compared to the Mopar that has to be modified, is apples to oranges. Ignorant almost.
I'm not beating my chest, I'm far from knowing it all. And I'm definitely not lazy. I have a small one-man business, and this is my engine, and it's not that important to me to pull it apart and do a bunch of **** over. I'll just put 1.5 rockers on it. Besides, I'm talking about the shitty response I got to the questions I had. No one on here knows me, you don't know what I've done, yet you jump to these conclusions. One thing I have learned through this, is there a lot of people on forums that seem to know everything. Without actually knowing ****.
 
I'm not beating my chest, I'm far from knowing it all. And I'm definitely not lazy. I have a small one-man business, and this is my engine, and it's not that important to me to pull it apart and do a bunch of **** over. I'll just put 1.5 rockers on it. Besides, I'm talking about the shitty response I got to the questions I had. No one on here knows me, you don't know what I've done, yet you jump to these conclusions. One thing I have learned through this, is there a lot of people on forums that seem to know everything. Without actually knowing ****.
Or they know something, and want to make you feel like you don’t know ****!!
 
Actually, If I could move them back just a little, towards the intake side of the head, they'd be perfect. I contacted the B3 guy to see what he says.
Notice the response you will get on the phone from Mike at B3. Even if you are not an expert in setting up the rockers, he will walk you through it, and end the conversation with, " call me if you have any questions ".
That is customer service!
Pleasure to deal with and buy parts from!
 
I'm not beating my chest, I'm far from knowing it all. And I'm definitely not lazy. I have a small one-man business, and this is my engine, and it's not that important to me to pull it apart and do a bunch of **** over. I'll just put 1.5 rockers on it. Besides, I'm talking about the shitty response I got to the questions I had. No one on here knows me, you don't know what I've done, yet you jump to these conclusions. One thing I have learned through this, is there a lot of people on forums that seem to know everything. Without actually knowing ****.
The thing is when you go public on a forum this big and complain about a person, a company or anything, you are stirring up a hornets nest no matter the reason for doing it.
 
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