So long, Tony Stewart

[69DARTS]

boobies

 

[memike]

probably right, I think it would be disrespectful to race after that. I know the last thing on my mind would be getting back in a race car

He is not going to tace today, prayers for the family and all the friends of this young driver and
to all the friends and fans I am sure he are grieving today.

 

[fratzog lover]

For Tony to be able to race today, He would have needed a good nights sleep, Correct? Regardless of whose fault it was, If my car accidently or otherwise struck someone, I'm not gonna be sleeping at all. Someone lost a family member people, remember that. Just sayin.

 

[memike]

For Tony to be able to race today, He would have needed a good nights sleep, Correct? Regardless of whose fault it was, If my car accidently or otherwise struck someone, I'm not gonna be sleeping at all. Someone lost a family member people, remember that. Just sayin.

Another thank you

 

[64 SRT8 Dart]

Heck being it was on dirt and on the bank of a turn, the kid could've even slipped at the last second and got pulled in.

 

[jdsduster]

I have to wonder about the sanctioning body of NASCAR in allowing Tony Stewart to race today while still under investigation for a "race related incident"; not my words, those are the words of the police chief of the investigating unit. If a police officer kills someone while on duty, aren't they usually taken off the street during the investigation? Don't we expect people that have concealed carry permits to have common sense and not to shoot other people arbitrarily just because they are verbally threatened; don't we usually expect there to be some type of offensive act towards the individual possessing the weapon before they are justified in drawing and discharging their weapon?

Tony Stewart is observed revving his engine, while under caution, causing the rear of his car to break loose and striking the other driver. Would the other driver had been struck if Tony Stewart had not made a choice to rev his engine, causing the rear of his car to break loose; I think not. The other driver walking towards Tony is not an offensive act when he is in a vulnerable position compared to Tony Stewart inside of a well protected race vehicle. It was a poor choice on that driver's part as well, but his action did not cause his death; Tony Stewart performed an unsafe act which caused this incident. IMHO, that was an extremely poor choice and his actions should have serious consequences. Whether Tony Stewart intended for this to happen or not is only relevant in respect to the difference between murder and manslaughter.

i hear ya

 

[memike]

Heck being it was on dirt and on the bank of a turn, the kid could've even slipped at the last second and got pulled in.

Yes, anything like this could have happened , but I know Tony Stewart
woould not hit this driver on purpose as this thread was started out saying by RRR.
Well I know we have members here that does not like nascar and I am happy
they don't, I don't like mowing the yard but I will not say I hate the man on his mower.

 

[krazykuda]

I'm not a fan of NASCAR, let alone any type of circle track racing.
I just watched the video and in my opinion he tried to avoid hitting him.
Tony was going as slow as the driver in front of him and when the Ward kid ran down in front of him it's obvious that Tony goosed it to keep from hitting him as the rear of the car actually went left, away from Ward. I think the kid just got too close and as the cars rear came back it snagged him.

Terrible tragedy that could've been avoided if the kid stayed in his rig and cooled off a little.

That's what I saw too.


Ward should not have been on the track. You don't chase after lions and bears. It's too dangerous. You shouldn't walk on a race track even under yellow. He put himself in harms way.


I have an extremely bad temper also. Runs in our family. I used to get plaster for Christmas to repair the holes that I put in the walls of our house when I was 4 years old. I've learned to control my temper as I got older. Those guys need to grow up and act like adults. Take time to cool off so you don't go off and do something that you will regret later. Their anger and tempers got the best of them and now there are many regrets....


My dad used to tell me, "The only one that wins in a bar fight are the lawyers..." He was right, the best thing to do is walk away, no matter how strongly that you feel you are right.

 

[Bulldozer]

not to sound insensitive, but as many times as ive seen drivers get out and walk or run down into the lane of traffic yelling and throwing tantrums, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened

 

[crackedback]

The kids ran down AT LEAST two lanes of an active racetrack to show how pissed off he was. That's the first thing most get told NOT to do, You NEVER walk on or enter an active race surface. You get the F OFF the surface. He created his own peril.

Black suit, bad lighting, causing the car before stewart to swerve, get out of the car before safety crew arrives, cars still going 50+...

Bad choices and he paid the ultimate price.

 

[69DARTS]

not to sound insensitive, but as many times as ive seen drivers get out and walk or run down into the lane of traffic yelling and throwing tantrums, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened

yep

 

[69DARTS]

The kids ran down AT LEAST two lanes of an active racetrack to show how pissed off he was. That's the first thing most get told NOT to do, You NEVER walk on or enter an active race surface. You get the F OFF the surface. He created his own peril.

Black suit, bad lighting, causing the car before stewart to swerve, cars still going 50+...

Bad choices and he paid the ultimate price.

yep

 

[RustyRatRod]

Yes, anything like this could have happened , but I know Tony Stewart
woould not hit this driver on purpose as this thread was started out saying by RRR.
Well I know we have members here that does not like nascar and I am happy
they don't, I don't like mowing the yard but I will not say I hate the man on his mower.

I didn't say he did anything on purpose. You inferred that. Quite incorrectly, I might add. I worded it like I did because I wanted a spirited discussion. It worked. No need to put words in anyone's mouth. I know you have a hard on for NASCAR and that's cool. I'm glad you like something in this world. I'm bout to the point where I don't like almost anything anymore.

 

[Brad4406]

OK, let's assume that none of us have seen Tony Stewart's outbursts before or his aggressive moves towards drivers in other types of situations. If he is as experienced as some of you make him out to be, then why would he have gunned his engine in that situation? I am not a round track racer, but I would be very surprised to find out that they teach these drivers to gun it in that situation, knowing that when you accomplish that act on dirt it usually causes the rear to break loose. These vehicles were on dirt, not asphalt, and these are not motorcycles or NASCAR vehicles where you gun it in a turn to get the suspension to compress so it will hug the road. IMHO, experience would have caused him to do exactly the opposite of what he did, especially while under caution. I would believe an involuntary action before experience.

 

[bad440]

The kids ran down AT LEAST two lanes of an active racetrack to show how pissed off he was. That's the first thing most get told NOT to do, You NEVER walk on or enter an active race surface. You get the F OFF the surface. He created his own peril.

Black suit, bad lighting, causing the car before stewart to swerve, get out of the car before safety crew arrives, cars still going 50+...

Bad choices and he paid the ultimate price.

Thats how I feel...

 

[1968FormulaS340]

I have watched the video over and over, many times. The track was under caution. Every other driver held a line and speed.

Only Tony Stewart, blipped the throttle.

Kevin Ward Jr, should have stayed in his car but Tony Stewart's "showboating" is the reason Mr. Ward is dead.

That's my opinion.

 

[crackedback]

What happens when you goose a car with a right rear tire 2" bigger in diameter than the left rear?

Think about that for a minute and get back.

I forget what the stagger is in tire size, but, that's an example.

Yep, Tony wanted to run the kid down. get real... Don't run onto an active track. You put yourself in harms way and bad **** tends to happen, see gun range example. Even a golf driving range will get you hurt/killed if you are stupid enough to walk out and grab a clubhead before everyone else "STOPS"!!!

 

[66340SEDAN]

the way I see it is , he definitely did not try to kill him , that's just crazy, but tony saw him pointing his finger and **** , and as he went by he got in the gas showing his nuts, spun his tires, the car kicked out sideways for a split second and caught him with the tire. I don't care for TS either, but you have two heated individuals that got caught up in some dumb ****. one idiot out there running towards the cars, and another idiot giving him a fly by power rev , and they collided. it was a swinging dick contest and unfortunately , someone lost thier life

Agree...that video is hard to watch.....hopefully a rule change is the result of this, too bad the result is tragic

 

[memike]

I didn't say he did anything on purpose. You inferred that. Quite incorrectly, I might add. I worded it like I did because I wanted a spirited discussion. It worked. No need to put words in anyone's mouth. I know you have a hard on for NASCAR and that's cool. I'm glad you like something in this world. I'm bout to the point where I don't like almost anything anymore.

So sorry I miss read this RustyRatRod. MY BAD INDEED.
I should read things ALLOT closer or have it read to me
Sorry
. It was a protective mode of the pleasure and respect I have for stock car racing sir
. I wount retract it but I am very sorry for getting out of order .

 

[Louie70Dart]

Here is a link to nascar.com about this incident.

[nomedia="http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2014/8/10/tony-stewart-incident-sprint-car-watkins-glen-latest-news.html"]Timeline of Tony Stewart incident[/nomedia]

 

[krazykuda]

I have watched the video over and over, many times. The track was under caution. Every other driver held a line and speed.

Only Tony Stewart, blipped the throttle.

Kevin Ward Jr, should have stayed in his car but Tony Stewart's "showboating" is the reason Mr. Ward is dead.

That's my opinion.

That's why we are saying that they are both at fault.

Stewart shouldn't have been "flexing his muscles" and Ward shouldn't have been "flexing his muscles" either.

If you walk through a pit of rattle snakes and get bit and die. Is it the rattle snake's fault for biting you, or your fault for going in the pit in the first place??? The classic chicken vs egg theory.

I see it as both made a mistake and share equally in the outcome.

 

[Vitamin c]

I have watched the video over and over, many times. The track was under caution. Every other driver held a line and speed.

Only Tony Stewart, blipped the throttle.

Kevin Ward Jr, should have stayed in his car but Tony Stewart's "showboating" is the reason Mr. Ward is dead.

That's my opinion.

X2, Stewart gets a "get outa jail" free card for this one. Im saying he wont face any charges for this, but the bad publicity will be a *****.

 

[Bulldozer]

but the bad publicity will be a *****.

without a doubt, from here on out , half the world is already convinced he is guilty of murder regardless of the outcome. his reputation is forever tainted, not that it wasn't already for being a bully on the track.

im not taking sides, like I said , dumb and dumber
two things, had Kevin stayed in his car, he would be alive. had Tony stayed out of the throttle, "I" believe he would still be alive.

I just don't understand why someone would walk into a fully exposed moving tire

 

[magnumdust]

The video i saw was pretty unclear one way or the other. Though i suspect this will ruin Stewart even if he is innocent. How many sponsors want that associated with their company?

 

[crackedback]

If you walk through a pit of rattle snakes and get bit and die. Is it the rattle snake's fault for biting you, or your fault for going in the pit in the first place???

Absolutely. It's a situation without action "A", result "B" never occurs.

Entering the surface is action "A"...