Anyways, 5k, 10k, 15k, 40k, none of it will have any bearing on what my car runs. What it cost to build a car in Australia or Tennessee will also have no bearing on what my car will run either. LOL 
13.3's to 11.8's to Forget it...
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j par
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Same go's until tomorrow... May the hot air of bench racing blow Beneath Your Wings.... bahahahah....
j par
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Anyways, 5k, 10k, 15k, 40k, none of it will have any bearing on what my car runs. What it cost to build a car in Australia or Tennessee will also have no bearing on what my car will run either. LOL
One thing for sure it won't be 11.8...
j par
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Agreed it won't be in Australia or Tennessee it will be in Fantasyland.... Bahahaha...Anyways, 5k, 10k, 15k, 40k, none of it will have any bearing on what my car runs. What it cost to build a car in Australia or Tennessee will also have no bearing on what my car will run either. LOL
Learn all you can while you are young and you will reap the benefits. Like I told my at the time 24 year old son when he moved from Pa to Colorado. I told him to be a sponge, absorb any and all info that he can at the Autobody shop where he got a job. In three years he’s almost making a 6 figure salary and is second in charge at age 27.
lead69
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Yes,a single purpose drag car,you don't even want to have more than 3.55s in your car!,what are we talking about?,if that's the case I can build a 9 second fox body cheap! and go 8s with nitrous!
j par
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sounds like your hoping I blow the thing up …
...NO!!!. I'm just saying you're not thinking forward... It sounds like my kid when he got his first car and put a k&n air filter on his Honda Civic and swore it was way faster and foot to the floor everywhere he went after that and guess what - kaboom!.. or when we were kids and put a big carburetor intake manifold and headers on our car and started racing it like Mario Andretti... if you think you're going to build an 11-second car on a stock bottom end and drive it to the track and do 11's and come back home year after a year... And as far as you constantly laughing about my car doing 12 that's the biggest laugh.. you know you've seen my mid 11 Time Slips.. you know I've taken the car off of Full kill.. but that's my point. I've had it on full kill and done middle 11.s and dialed it back a little bit and have done low 12's... And I will do hi 11's this next summer no problem...
How can I do this you say? Year after year after year after year after year....?? I had a professionally built bottom end that I can build on and play with over the years... I started from the back and work my way forward I started from the bottom and work my way up.... Going down to the track and doing 11's all day and driving home ain't going to happen for a long time with anybody with an a body Mopar and no forethought... I know you like to throw that fantasy number of 6K out there on my motor but it's just simply not true.. while I did pay good money for good machine work and professional assembly of the short block it's still paying dividends to this day....
...I did say you may be able to eek out in 11.999999 one time if you buy the promaxx heads the torque converter a massive solid lifter Cam and all that, BUT only once and that is a huge Maybe... I doubt highly that he'll do it consistently on a stock as a rock bottom end consistently trying to do it. I don't want you to blow it up I want you to think forward and do it once...
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See post 251. LOL. Page 11, and your still on the NOS
I'd rather read the Mueller report.....
And as far as you constantly laughing about my car doing 12 that's the biggest laugh.. you know you've seen my mid 11 Time Slips.. you know I've taken the car off of Full kill.. but that's my point. I've had it on full kill and done middle 11.s and dialed it back a little bit and have done low 12's... And I will do hi 11's this next summer no problem...
How can I do this you say? Year after year after year after year after year....?? I had a professionally built bottom end that I can build on and play with over the years... I started from the back and work my way forward I started from the bottom and work my way up.... Going down to the track and doing 11's all day and driving home ain't going to happen for a long time with anybody with an a body Mopar and no forethought... I know you like to throw that fantasy number of 6K out there on my motor but it's just simply not true.. while I did pay good money for good machine work and professional assembly of the short block it's still paying dividends to this day....
I did say you may be able to eek out in 11.999999 one time if you buy the promaxx heads the torque converter a massive solid lifter Cam and all that, BUT only once and that is a huge Maybe... I doubt highly that he'll do it consistently on a stock as a rock bottom end consistently trying to do it. I don't want you to blow it up I want you to think forward and do it once...
j par
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Or you could be honest and say you can't handle the truth....
T56MaxTorq
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JPar, 400+ hp is nothing these days and can be easily obtained. It’s nothing special.
j par
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100% agreed but for how long on a stock bottom end?...
j par
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I do "not" want him to put thousands of dollars into heads cams converters and all that and kablooey...
j par
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And of course we've heard the stories of guys using nitrous on 318's and doing 10 seconds for quite some time. But that's not having all the power and strain on the motor every time it's running. That's just for the 10 seconds...
Walker434
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If you get the right heads, cam and converter I think you might hit your goal with 3.23s if you can take some weight out of the car. That's assuming you are going to stick with the short 26 inch tire. My old 5.9 junkyard magnum combo went 7.47 in the 1/8th with 3.91 gears and a 28 inch tall tire. I swapped in a Dana 60 with a 3.54 gear and it still went 7.62 at the same track. I also added a 6 point roll bar so a lot of that slowing down was the weight not the gear.
If the combo is right you don't always have to have 4.56 gears ect. That stock stroke 360 has good low end torque to get you moving.
If the combo is right you don't always have to have 4.56 gears ect. That stock stroke 360 has good low end torque to get you moving.
j par
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WHAT!! SM's !!!???... You better save your Flex Seal for yourself... Does Promax say where they get their castings from?...
440outlawdart has or had a 70 Dart 440 B1 headed fully dressed drag car listed for 9500 bucks. nice car easy 10's
PRH
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Okay...... here’s my prediction......
By the time spring gets here and 318will makes his first attempts at the 11.80 goal....... this thread will be well over 100 pages........ and over 75% of the posts won’t have anything to do with what he actually did to the car/motor to achieve the goal.
By the time spring gets here and 318will makes his first attempts at the 11.80 goal....... this thread will be well over 100 pages........ and over 75% of the posts won’t have anything to do with what he actually did to the car/motor to achieve the goal.
I called and asked. They like other Edelbrock copies are outsourced outside the USA. He told me they (ProMax)get them as raw as they can and do everything in house.
j par
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So just like SM there Chinese and the Machine work is done in house??..
j par
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j par
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Street strip as in drag down the freeway for an hour each way??..
I'm sure it could be detuned a tad and setup for the street easily. in doing so selling the wheelie bars and other items not needed and recouping some coin.
Still an easy 11 sec car for way under 10 grand.
PRH
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IMO, The only real obstacle to the 11’s with 318wills proposal is the gears.
It wouldn’t be hard at all to run 11’s with an a body using a stock stroke 360...... if the cam/converter/gear choices are wide open.
The real challenge as I see it is, coming up with a budget friendly combo that will run the number with 3.55’s.
People these days are spoiled by the way newer muscle cars with overdrive transmissions go down the highway.
4.10’s in a street car seems unimaginable nowadays....... but that was pretty normal gear in the peak of the muscle car era.
My dad bought a 1968 ss 396/350hp new.
4 speed/4.10’s...... no special order....bought it off the showroom floor. This was the family car.
They also had a 396/375hp with 4 speed/4.56’s sitting there on the lot.
At that time, a friend of his had a 67 Vette 427/435hp 4 speed/4.56’s......... was his daily driver.
All A12 cars came with 4.10’s.
These were normal gears when these cars were new.
It wouldn’t be hard at all to run 11’s with an a body using a stock stroke 360...... if the cam/converter/gear choices are wide open.
The real challenge as I see it is, coming up with a budget friendly combo that will run the number with 3.55’s.
People these days are spoiled by the way newer muscle cars with overdrive transmissions go down the highway.
4.10’s in a street car seems unimaginable nowadays....... but that was pretty normal gear in the peak of the muscle car era.
My dad bought a 1968 ss 396/350hp new.
4 speed/4.10’s...... no special order....bought it off the showroom floor. This was the family car.
They also had a 396/375hp with 4 speed/4.56’s sitting there on the lot.
At that time, a friend of his had a 67 Vette 427/435hp 4 speed/4.56’s......... was his daily driver.
All A12 cars came with 4.10’s.
These were normal gears when these cars were new.
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Here’s the link to my testing ProMax heads
Here’s the link to my testing ProMax heads
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