Gen 3 Hemi dual plane.

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Gentlemen, they are on the street, mine was delivered yesterday. Even my Bull Dog had to have a look at it..... lol



 
fivefivem said:
joe, I was considering the modman route from indy; but seeing all the negative input here about them, I have decided to wait for your intake. how will we know when they are available? thanks
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They are coming in slowly but I am starting to get intakes. My first obligation was to Dave Weber from Modern Muscle Performance. He bought 10 as soon as I said I was making them and to Greg but they are both still waiting on the rest of the accessories which should be available for them next week and the rest of everyone shortly thereafter. I have 6 early 5.7L EFI intakes in stock now and I am still waiting on the 6.1/Eagle/Apache/HC port window in EFI and all of my carb intakes. Pop's bone stock (except my intake) 05 300c goes on the rollers next week and so far things are impressive!! As soon as I have numbers they will get posted up and I will post a comparison test between stock and my intake. Carb intakes are $679.00 and bare EFI manifolds are $779.00 All intakes will include a 6061T6 billet oil fill cap/breather fitting, 2" chrome top open element breather, PCV valve, PCV valve grommet, 90deg and 45deg brass fittings for vacuum, 2 map sensor bolts. A Stainless manifold bolt kit, intake gaskets, injector rail hold downs, DBW throttle body adapter, etc. will be optional equipment. Joe
 

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fivefivem said:
Joe, forgot to ask if I can still hide my coil packs under your intake? that's important to me for that clean old school hemi look I am after. thanks
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Absolutely! In one of the previous pictures I have my intake with my coil relocation on it and it clears without problem. My relocation kits are a ways out but you could fab your own. Joe
 
as soon as the carb versions are ready to go please send me a message. I will certainly like to take one.
 
Joe, did you get any numbers from the 300 you were testing? And thanks for getting the bits and pieces mailed out.
 
I did very well!! I have shorter runners than stock so I lost 12ftlbs peak less than that shortly after the peak on the bottom off of a plastic car intake but it ran very well!!
 

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Blue lines are stock, red lines are my intake.
 

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Sorry, I tried to load the pic again and the website is taking the image from my cell down to only 10k. I will try to resize it and load it off of my computer when I get home.
 
This pertains to folks who are using a engine out of a truck and retaining the truck's front mounted accessories. The alternator sits high and back. This will interfere with aftermarket fuel rails. I'm still waiting on a couple fitting to complete the fuel feed, but this is where I'm currently at.



 
Fst73_410 said:
So if you lost some torque, the benefit of this manifold is what over the stock one for say a carb car when you finish that manifold?
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I guess i have the same question? am i seeing it correctly that above 4k RPM you're actually down on HP and ft lbs?
 
This intake was tested in completely stock form on a bone stock 2005 Chrysler 300c with stock EFI. The benefit currently was seen in 2 ways. After 5250rpm where it out HP the stock intake and unlike other intakes like it didn't loose 30 to 40 ftlbs on the bottom end. It has about the same power band as a stock srt8 aluminum intake. I have also found a small machining alteration for a single butterfly DBW throttle body that I am going to do which should bump it a bit more and completely outrun the stock plastic intake. Keep in mind, the plastic intake can not be ported, modified, or boosted above 6-8lbs where mine can and have fun modifying truck accessories or swapping over to car acessories to run an SRT8 intake if you don't have it already. I have yet to test a mild engine with it currently but if the Chrysler I tested on had a cam and long tubes it would have more than out run the stock plastic intake. I currently have Greg from Virginia installing one on his supercharged truck and Waldo from New York putting one on his twin turbo ram.
 
Also like to point out that folks using carburetors have a very limited selection of manifolds. And with seriously ported heads you will find this manifold makes a solid seal where as the OEM manifold it's a crap shoot at best. I'm very close to running, just waiting on a few more pieces, but this is a very nice manifold that has the promise of doing much better than other alternatives.


 
I haven't made any commitments on engine yet for my project. I want to preserve some old school look, so would be interested in a Carb version. Do you think the fuel injector lumps could be "shaved" off and then "textured" with something like a needle scaler then camouflaged enough with paint? The area looks meaty enough.
Don't ridicule me for a dumb question-I know the serpentine front end & the plug wires are gonna give it away but.....
Speaking of plug wires, could the coil packs be reversed so the wires come out the back?
You know what would clean stuff up a bit too is if someone made plug wires that shared a common jacket and split just above the valve covers, or were molded with a dually plug.
I like your dyno sheets, you got a decent bump earlier on, from 3750 to 4300, then where you are down its not by much and you got more going out on the top end. Hard to tell but your roll off on the top may not be as steep either. Be cool to see this on something modded.
 
Roger Ram Rod said:
I haven't made any commitments on engine yet for my project. I want to preserve some old school look, so would be interested in a Carb version. Do you think the fuel injector lumps could be "shaved" off and then "textured" with something like a needle scaler then camouflaged enough with paint? The area looks meaty enough.
Don't ridicule me for a dumb question-I know the serpentine front end & the plug wires are gonna give it away but.....
Speaking of plug wires, could the coil packs be reversed so the wires come out the back?
You know what would clean stuff up a bit too is if someone made plug wires that shared a common jacket and split just above the valve covers, or were molded with a dually plug.
I like your dyno sheets, you got a decent bump earlier on, from 3750 to 4300, then where you are down its not by much and you got more going out on the top end. Hard to tell but your roll off on the top may not be as steep either. Be cool to see this on something modded.
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The 03-05 hemi's have a high tension wire for its waste spark. The 06+ use what is called dual coil and has no external wires. This is a picture of an 03 engine with SoS coils..
 
Fst73_410 said:
So if you lost some torque, the benefit of this manifold is what over the stock one for say a carb car when you finish that manifold?
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I hope this is not getting back to the old 'why a carb' argument.....

We all know EFI is superior in almost all aspects of induction.

Its also superior in price - when you consider the fuel delivery system, the fuel management system and accessories.

What Joe has designed is an efficient, effective and simple option for thise that may want to start with a carb and move to EFI later...or the crowd that wanna hot rod an efficient modern engine with old schooltech and knowledge.

I see it as a winner..either way......and I didnt even know that it works better than a 5.7 EFI intake.

The early 5.7 guys should be lining up!
 
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