Here you go. I went ahead and did it before bed. Looks pretty strong.
RustyRatRod's Guide To Hot Rod Bliss
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Ok that'll work, I'll get in touch with them. Thank you sir for the reply and a cool thread.
i'd like to see a bit more lift n duration on the exhaust lube , a split lift/duration should be better power though the rpm range for the street . might even pull the lube centers to 112 . since its just a thread here , what she look like rrr ?
Vince Gillespie
Mopars Rock !!!
Thank you RRR , this thread is an awesome read , very informative and helpful to many !!!
I know this is an older thread but I was hoping you don't mind me asking you a question ...
I too have been considering the 68' 4speed camshaft and was wondering if it is much hotter than the 340 automatic camshaft ? I have a 70' Dart Swinger ( was /6 automatic ) , I am looking to freshen up my 69' short block , have a fresh set of 308 heads and LD340 intake but have not decided on a camshaft as of yet . Is there a measurable " seat of the pants " difference between the 340 automatic and 4speed camshafts ? A large part of me wants to have a rude cam that sounds mean and nasty but realistically speaking , at 57 years young I don't want be laying under the car or bent over the front fender working on the car for hours on end like I did as a kid . I have enjoyed working on my cars over the years but I'm now more inclinded to want to just get in a realiable car with some power on tap and enjoy the ride .
I should mention that I have rebuilt 833 that will be used behind my 340 which is yet to be built . My last engine build was in 1989 when I built a 70' 440-6 with a Hemi grind cam so I'm due and looking forward this build.
I appreciate your thoughts and thank you in advance for your assistance RRR !!!
@Vince Gillespie:
I don't think you will really feel a big seat of the pants difference if you had the two identical cars minus camshafts sitting side by side on a road test, but there will be a minor difference at the big end when you cross the finish line.
I don't think you will really feel a big seat of the pants difference if you had the two identical cars minus camshafts sitting side by side on a road test, but there will be a minor difference at the big end when you cross the finish line.
Vince Gillespie
Mopars Rock !!!
Thanks rumblefish !!! I'm a ways from my 340 build , the body is now off the rotisserie , just a shell at this time getting ready for paint but I'm doing a bunch of reading , researching my options for when it comes time to tackle my engine . This is an awesome site !
Thanks again rumblefish , take care !!!
Did I hear Sealed Power CS644? I wonder how it would work on a 318 and better yet with 1.6 rockers. .458-.472 lift.
Cam specs: 210-220° @ .050 .429-.442 114°LSA
Cam specs: 210-220° @ .050 .429-.442 114°LSA
old repo 340 purple cam muscle car cam...p4452782 .430/.444 268/276 overlap 44 114 centerline
I'm new to this forum (and car building), and I'm VERY glad I came across this thread.
Project_Fish
I'm on a Low Budget!
Great thread, I have a 67 Barracuda that I bought as a teenager in 1990.
I had huge dreams for it, got super excited and tore the thing all apart!
Got overwhelmed and just parked it!
Stuck to my guns though and never sold it! I knew cars like this don't come along everyday!
Now that I am 46 and have much more experience I am going to put it all back together.
Before they were as rare I managed to get a 72 340 that is in pieces and a 489 rear end.
I am more excited than ever that cars that are not perfectly straight with great paint and perfect trim are kinda in style! I will worry about it a lot less like this!
Also to know that I can get just a fresh build on the motor and now worry about spending money on aftermarket parts is huge! I am not even going to worry about putting disc brakes on it now.
Just excited to have a Bitchin Barracuda and enjoying it just as it is!
thanks for all the great advice everyone!
I had huge dreams for it, got super excited and tore the thing all apart!
Got overwhelmed and just parked it!
Stuck to my guns though and never sold it! I knew cars like this don't come along everyday!
Now that I am 46 and have much more experience I am going to put it all back together.
Before they were as rare I managed to get a 72 340 that is in pieces and a 489 rear end.
I am more excited than ever that cars that are not perfectly straight with great paint and perfect trim are kinda in style! I will worry about it a lot less like this!
Also to know that I can get just a fresh build on the motor and now worry about spending money on aftermarket parts is huge! I am not even going to worry about putting disc brakes on it now.
Just excited to have a Bitchin Barracuda and enjoying it just as it is!
thanks for all the great advice everyone!
JAndrea
Well-Known Member
I could not agree more with Rusty’s OP.
I bought my 69 Barracuda as a beater (No motor, random 4spd in trunk).. spent 4 years building it.. and it still looks like a beater, but now it has a 440, and I LOVE it, and so does everyone on the road.
The only expensive parts are in the clutch and exhaust system.
I run a stock 1977 motorhome 440 ($500) in front of a 4 speed transmission that I rebuilt, stock $35 ignition box from O’Reilly, stock ballast resistor (I have a backup), original paint, original suspension (and all bushings
) and steering (ps), original wiring throughout, TQ carb... oh, and $35 seat covers and no carpeting 
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My original plan was basic safety and road worthiness, and to NOT get sucked into the rat race for horsepower and shiny crap, or anything else that would keep it off the road. I stuck to that plan, and still stickin to it.
I bought my 69 Barracuda as a beater (No motor, random 4spd in trunk).. spent 4 years building it.. and it still looks like a beater, but now it has a 440, and I LOVE it, and so does everyone on the road.
The only expensive parts are in the clutch and exhaust system.
I run a stock 1977 motorhome 440 ($500) in front of a 4 speed transmission that I rebuilt, stock $35 ignition box from O’Reilly, stock ballast resistor (I have a backup), original paint, original suspension (and all bushings
) and steering (ps), original wiring throughout, TQ carb... oh, and $35 seat covers and no carpeting .My original plan was basic safety and road worthiness, and to NOT get sucked into the rat race for horsepower and shiny crap, or anything else that would keep it off the road. I stuck to that plan, and still stickin to it.
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and there you have it!! It just depends on what you feel is important-driving or dreaming!I could not agree more with Rusty’s OP.
I bought my 69 Barracuda as a beater (No motor, random 4spd in trunk).. spent 4 years building it.. and it still looks like a beater, but now it has a 440, and I LOVE it, and so does everyone on the road.
The only expensive parts are in the clutch and exhaust system.
I run a stock 1977 motorhome 440 ($500) in front of a 4 speed transmission that I rebuilt, stock $35 ignition box from O’Reilly, stock ballast resistor (I have a backup), original paint, original suspension (and all bushings
My original plan was basic safety and road worthiness, and to NOT get sucked into the rat race for horsepower and shiny crap, or anything else that would keep it off the road. I stuck to that plan, and still stickin to it.
Yup! I say drive the dream car. Perfect or not. Enjoy it as soon as you can. This doesn’t have to be long drawn out build of perfection. If you want that perfect car, fine. I see a lot of builds start out one way and end up a museum build and worried about endlessly and soon there stopped being driven over worry.
dukeboy440
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Took me a long time to come to this conclusion and ultimately part of the reason my build got off to such a slow start. I wanted to build it perfectly and therefore was trying to save and find the best stuff and what not, eventually I realize that I can make use of what I have and bam, progress started. Lessons I should have followed long before.
Yea, sometimes we be a bit slow to remember such things... like a factory intake and carb isn’t a bad thing. People go out and get the best stuff for there 340/360 and run a 15, 14 or mid 13 and don’t know why when they think they should have laid down a low 12 or better.
hotrod blis must have a motor over everything else its got to gett it ! went by my buds shop to find the real hotrod motors , a .100 over 354 blown injected hemi and a wild 392 with webers , both kill *** street motors , lol .
ir3333
Well-Known Member
Stock styled drivers.They often outperform that nasty idling overcamd' show piece in every way except "wow factor"and they are worry free for the most part. And i don't know why we don't see more "more doors" So economical to buy and build!
dukeboy440
Well-Known Member
Agreed
not just glitts here , more go then show here .
Yup. Chrome don't get ya home. I'll take a junk yard dog that runs over a trailer queen any day.
JAndrea
Well-Known Member
In addition, my fuel gauge doesn’t work (new sender, and resistance at different levels is fine.. so must must be the gauge itself), nor does my odometer, so I never have a real accurate idea of how much fuel I have! And at night, the original gauges are too dim to read. But my smile outshines any of these little quirks.
I also have a $150 22” Ebay radiator paired with a 180 degree thermostat. We’ve had some nasty 95 degree days in Minnesota this summer and the only time it got above 180 is when I’m idling or crawling through traffic. As soon as I start moving at normal speeds she drops Back down. On normal temp days... never gets over 180-190 even when idling. I run a $40 fixed 6 blade 17” Derale fan and no shroud.
And... this car MOVES when I get on it!
I will admit, it takes repeatedly reminding myself NOT to get sucked in... because man.. I love wrenching on my car, and taking it back apart just feels right ;) But... driving it is priority #1. Everything I contemplate gets weighed against that.
I also have a $150 22” Ebay radiator paired with a 180 degree thermostat. We’ve had some nasty 95 degree days in Minnesota this summer and the only time it got above 180 is when I’m idling or crawling through traffic. As soon as I start moving at normal speeds she drops Back down. On normal temp days... never gets over 180-190 even when idling. I run a $40 fixed 6 blade 17” Derale fan and no shroud.
And... this car MOVES when I get on it!
I will admit, it takes repeatedly reminding myself NOT to get sucked in... because man.. I love wrenching on my car, and taking it back apart just feels right ;) But... driving it is priority #1. Everything I contemplate gets weighed against that.
That’s the point where you build another engine and get it running and reasonably tuned before you drop it in and go.
more pics of those hotrods in run .
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