Guns, Dogs and Blades QnA

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gzig5 said:
I’ve had excellent luck with Hornady Interlock spitzer bullets and you can’t go wrong with the Partition. I wouldn’t hesitate to try a few of the modern bullets in the correct weight class for your barrel twist. The mono metal bullets are usually light for caliber to stay in the same twist range. You may get lucky and be able to use the same load in both rifles. I’m doing that in my kids 7-08rem rifles, but I use different head stamp brass in each of them but same die setup, bullet, and powder charge.
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Ahhh, the 7mm-08. I have a hankering for one of those. I have a .260 Remington and several .308’s. Just missing that one. I’m not looking to load the same round for both guns-just posing the question. I’ve had my 700 in .257 Bob since 1991 and it has killed a number of deer. Dad’s gun is a new one for me. He passed in 2022 so it’s time to get that gun in the rotation now.
 
pauly said:
Ahhh, the 7mm-08. I have a hankering for one of those. I have a .260 Remington and several .308’s. Just missing that one. I’m not looking to load the same round for both guns-just posing the question. I’ve had my 700 in .257 Bob since 1991 and it has killed a number of deer. Dad’s gun is a new one for me. He passed in 2022 so it’s time to get that gun in the rotation now.
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There are a bunch of Bench Rest shooters that are 7mm-08 crazy out here by me. Them boys literally will not even discuss another caliber. They are very cult like! Hah!
 
Been away for a bit. Long story. But this finally arrived. Got Alpha brass finally. Dies on order. 6GT

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mike240 said:
Been away for a bit. Long story. But this finally arrived. Got Alpha brass finally. Dies on order. 6GT

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Welcome back guy! We have missed your knowledge! You have forgotten more about building than most of us know. Hope your biz is still rocking. That looks like one seriously nasty piece of equipment in the pictures. What kind of glass ya got on top?
 
On a super geeky point you are the first guy @mike240 I actually know (digitally) that is running a GT. Was the feed issues and shoulder angle the basis for your decision over the dasher or Creedmore? I am a long time admirer of the boys at GA precision or whatever they are calling themselves these days. They simply rock, I have lusted after their rifles for years, my wife and I just had a very long discussion about their equipment last month. Turned out the discussion was very one sided! Hah! I am looking at selling my Cuda and wanted to purchase a GA rifle with part of the proceeds. She used a lot of adjectives, critiqued both my lineage and heritage, and ultimately explained to me in no uncertain terms why that was not happening. Yep, I am now developing the specs for the build and the GT just keeps rising its head as the basis for the build. Against my super bias in favor of standard military calibers. Can’t wait to see how yours shoots once you get your loads developed. Keep us posted please.
 
Side bar PSA for all you reloaders out there. While I totally understand the recent changes in our Govt impact our industry. Make no mistake powder is still going to be pricey and sketchy on availability for civilian market. We purchase our training ammo by the pallet and supply has been hit and miss. To put it in perspective each *155mm round that gets lobbed at an enemy on the battlefield is equal to approximately 15 cases of 9mm. Ukraine alone is consuming aprox 8,000 rounds of 155 per day. Do the math reloaders. Powder is gonna be tight for the foreseeable future.
*data courtesy of Recoil Editor “Downrange” issue 77 page 14
 
Sublime one said:
Welcome back guy! We have missed your knowledge! You have forgotten more about building than most of us know. Hope your biz is still rocking. That looks like one seriously nasty piece of equipment in the pictures. What kind of glass ya got on top?
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That is a Vortex Razor Gen III, 6-36. Euro Optics had a run done in black. In a ARC mount (I have four of these mounts)

The rifle came from Phil At MPA with his Matrix Pro chassis (midnight bronze cerakote), “Spencer” barrel, ARC/MPA “Coup de Grace” action, Trigger Tech single Diamond.
 
Sublime one said:
On a super geeky point you are the first guy @mike240 I actually know (digitally) that is running a GT. Was the feed issues and shoulder angle the basis for your decision over the dasher or Creedmore? I am a long time admirer of the boys at GA precision or whatever they are calling themselves these days. They simply rock, I have lusted after their rifles for years, my wife and I just had a very long discussion about their equipment last month. Turned out the discussion was very one sided! Hah! I am looking at selling my Cuda and wanted to purchase a GA rifle with part of the proceeds. She used a lot of adjectives, critiqued both my lineage and heritage, and ultimately explained to me in no uncertain terms why that was not happening. Yep, I am now developing the specs for the build and the GT just keeps rising its head as the basis for the build. Against my super bias in favor of standard military calibers. Can’t wait to see how yours shoots once you get your loads developed. Keep us posted please.
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I went with 6GT for the feeding without tuning mags and I already have a bunch of AICS 308 mags. Also a bit more barrel life over 6 Creed. Also needed a bit more range and speed over my 6ARC (which is a great cartridge). My Uintah bolt action upper on an AR was awesome in SD for prairie dogs.

I have a GA in 308 (FBI HRT rifle). I also have shitty shoulders nowadays and shooting hundreds of rounds a day of that is just too much anymore.
 
mike240 said:
That is a Vortex Razor Gen III, 6-36. Euro Optics had a run done in black. In a ARC mount (I have four of these mounts)

The rifle came from Phil At MPA with his Matrix Pro chassis (midnight bronze cerakote), “Spencer” barrel, ARC/MPA “Coup de Grace” action, Trigger Tech single Diamond.
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Pure sex right there!
 
Sublime one said:
Side bar PSA for all you reloaders out there. While I totally understand the recent changes in our Govt impact our industry. Make no mistake powder is still going to be pricey and sketchy on availability for civilian market. We purchase our training ammo by the pallet and supply has been hit and miss. To put it in perspective each *155mm round that gets lobbed at an enemy on the battlefield is equal to approximately 15 cases of 9mm. Ukraine alone is consuming aprox 8,000 rounds of 155 per day. Do the math reloaders. Powder is gonna be tight for the foreseeable future.
*data courtesy of Recoil Editor “Downrange” issue 77 page 14
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155mm Artillery Propelling Charges

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Probably so…much big gun stuff is triple base propellants with grains being pellets the size of a hay pellet or little finger with hole channels through it to increase surface area to burn. Triple base burns slower than the double base most of use for rifles and contains two or three ingredients that double base doesn’t have. But their base ingredients are what we use in small arms. Single plus something makes double base. DB plus more makes triple base.

I only know (that small amount) because of the difficulty getting military TB powders for training detection dogs and the associated ATF chemist provided training in safe handling, and tracking the odors the dogs were certified to locate.
 
mike240 said:
I went with 6GT for the feeding without tuning mags and I already have a bunch of AICS 308 mags. Also a bit more barrel life over 6 Creed. Also needed a bit more range and speed over my 6ARC (which is a great cartridge). My Uintah bolt action upper on an AR was awesome in SD for prairie dogs.

I have a GA in 308 (FBI HRT rifle). I also have shitty shoulders nowadays and shooting hundreds of rounds a day of that is just too much anymore.
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Hah! I feel your pain, literally. I am the happy recipient of Total shoulder replacement (rt side) in second week March. Result of a zillion rounds, plus some weight lifting and perhaps a bit of hockey! Surgeon took one look at the X-ray and said well I am gonna save you some money. Looking at this X-ray we got no need for a MRI, not even close. You got your moneys worth out of that one!
 
mike240 said:
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Probably so…much big gun stuff is triple base propellants with grains being pellets the size of a hay pellet or little finger with hole channels through it to increase surface area to burn. Triple base burns slower than the double base most of use for rifles and contains two or three ingredients that double base doesn’t have. But their base ingredients are what we use in small arms. Single plus something makes double base. DB plus more makes triple base.

I only know (that small amount) because of the difficulty getting military TB powders for training detection dogs and the associated ATF chemist provided training in safe handling, and tracking the odors the dogs were certified to locate.
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Nitrocellulose is the key ingredient and there is a serious shortage. It crosses both double base and triple base applications.
 
Been on the road the last few weeks teaching misc instructors blocks. One of the exercises I have the instructor candidate do is set up a business plan (budget) for conducting a class. They are typically staggered at the cost to actually teach a class. And then of course the illusion of doing the same class twice a month and filling it everytime. This week I am training folks to become conceal carry instructors. Once they develop a budget for their class they certainly pause for a minute. Just all the hidden costs they don’t think about, instructors insurance, blue guns, AV equipment, range fees, folding chairs, etc etc.

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FJRdoc said:
Out of curiosity, what's a ballpark cost to run a class?
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That is like asking what cam is best for a 318? Here is a quick break down. I have not priced this stuff in awhile so some may be a bit off but you get the idea.Keep in mind it is front loaded as many of the purchases can then be utilized for additional classes. So then you have to explain depreciation schedule and difference to accounting systems cash vs accrual to the instructor candidate. Many have never owned a business before. It is eye opening for them.

Range rental =150
Range head fee = 10 per student
Instructors insurance = 400 per year
Instructor certification fees= 600
Folding chairs=20 per chair
Blue guns=50 per unit pistol/revolver
Blue gun rifle= 150 per unit
Dummy rounds = 1 per unit( multiple calibers needed)
Chamber bore safety flags =1 per unit you need a bunch
Student workbooks=20 per unit
Assistant instructor= negotiable but typically 100-400 per day
Laptop= 500
Remote for laptop=20
Mileage=.52 per mile (IRS)
Professional clothes=100 (pants,shirt with logo)
Targets=.50 per unit
Target stands/backers=20 per unit
 
Sublime one said:
That is like asking what cam is best for a 318? Here is a quick break down. I have not priced this stuff in awhile so some may be a bit off but you get the idea.Keep in mind it is front loaded as many of the purchases can then be utilized for additional classes. So then you have to explain depreciation schedule and difference to accounting systems cash vs accrual to the instructor candidate. Many have never owned a business before. It is eye opening for them.

Range rental =150
Range head fee = 10 per student
Instructors insurance = 400 per year
Instructor certification fees= 600
Folding chairs=20 per chair
Blue guns=50 per unit pistol/revolver
Blue gun rifle= 150 per unit
Dummy rounds = 1 per unit( multiple calibers needed)
Chamber bore safety flags =1 per unit you need a bunch
Student workbooks=20 per unit
Assistant instructor= negotiable but typically 100-400 per day
Laptop= 500
Remote for laptop=20
Mileage=.52 per mile (IRS)
Professional clothes=100 (pants,shirt with logo)
Targets=.50 per unit
Target stands/backers=20 per unit
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In addition you need props, real guns! For the class I am teaching today I needed the following
SA revolver
DA revolver
1911 platform pistol
Decocker pistol
22 rimfire magazine fed
Stricker fired pistol
Compact semi auto pistol
SIG 320
 
dartindanno said:
I had this knife custom made for my brother’s birthday tomorrow. Made by Kim Breed
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That is a pretty useful looking blade. Can't imagine much it wouldn't handle.
I had a custom knife made by a young man (I think he might be 18 now?) near Estes Park, CO. He makes them out of old truck springs and does the sheaths as well. The sheath is designed to ride in the middle of your back to keep the knife out of the way for EDC, but my shoulder doesn't like going back that far so I use it cross draw on either front hip, depending on which pistol I'm carrying that day. Stays super sharp and will gut, skin, and bone out two deer before you really need to hit it with more than a strop.

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