Had a discussion with the wife...

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I had some friends in high school. There were something like 8 kids in the family. No dad around. This gal makes me think of their mom. I liked the kids. Mom was usually at the bar or sleeping somewhere besides home. She looked like about 20 miles of BAD ROAD. I'd be going fast in the other direction.
 
There's quite a few of them with mattresses growing out of their backs!
 
StrokerScamp how did you find a picture of her???
 

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My opinion on the picture issue...Chapalito has a little growing up to do. But, guys can be very immature and possessive that way. Some don't like thinking about, let alone having full color hard copy images which infer that maybe, possibly, there may have been some chance, at some point, in a galaxy far far away, some other guy's ding dong may have even once been in close proximity to his woman’s love muffin.

My opinion on the sister...Sounds to me like the woman has possibly suffered some type of emotional trauma or has abandonment issues which have never been examined. Perhaps a bad relationship with dad, abusive boyfriend(s), adolescent on adolescent abuse, all of the above, who knows.

Its been my experience that women who engage in this type of behavior are trying to fill a void (no pun intended) or most common, a need. Because of the past abuse/trauma, some no longer feel "normal" without it and unconsciously seek it out by dating the "a**hole" guys, or manufacture drama by going outside their current relationship if they do happen to be connected with a "good" guy who doesn‘t provide the turmoil they subconsciously require. My guess is that deep down, she's probably not real happy with herself, probably for a myriad of reasons...self esteem, body image, lack of sustainable drama, etc. Drama and emotional upheaval could be all she knows and feels comfortable with.

My opinions come from reflecting back on my own courtship and marriage to a beautiful troubled woman who acted the exact same way. Both of my brothers, and a close friend, tried to warn me of their intuition about her (all were dead-on correct). I didn’t listen and married her anyway because I was sure she would change for me (ack! phfft!). That train wreck ran over me, backed up, and ran over me again for three long god-awful years before I finally filed the papers and was eventually able to delete that waste-of-space from my life because she didn’t change one stinkin’ bit. The marriage even hampered my health (near the end, I lost 36lbs in 6 weeks from worry and stress). I just thank sweet chocolate christ that I didn’t impregnate that ho. She’s now someone else’s throbbing headache.

The woman I started seeing after my divorce revealed some childhood sexual abuse incidents. She also exhibited anger issues, which I know (through hours of conversation) resulted from that trauma. She was a sweetheart of a woman, had a heart of gold, and possessed all the physical attributes prized by the superficial male. But, I had to bail because of the baggage. That one was a tough give-up.

My current wife is a jewel. She’s beautiful, loving, kind, generous, a great cook, treats my kids very well and has been able to put up with my crap for eight years now. I don’t know how she does it. I sure wouldn’t. I’m one lucky bastage.
 
OK I am at work so I cant read all the replies but here is my .02

As far as pictures of the past, this is a big bone with my wife and I. I have pictures in a chest of me and my ex wife. I never take them out and they are there for my children when I croak. My wife thinks I should get rid of them or give them to my children now. Both children are still young and unsettled so I hesitate to do that.

Bottom line is the pics are her property. If he cant deal with it, he needs to go.

Her past is her past, it is none of his business. If he cant deal with it, he may need to rethink his relationship with her.

Now if he thinks she will cheat on him, he shouldnt be there in the first place.
Again my opinion.
 
We fix cars not people.Leave it alone and go work on your car after all it wont dissapoint you or lie to you.Her life her problem
 
We fix cars not people.Leave it alone and go work on your car after all it wont dissapoint you or lie to you.Her life her problem
I am not trying to "fix" her, far from it. I have known her for 9 years or and have only spoken to her 6-7 times. My wife is not trying to fix her neither. Just looking for opinions. I forgot to mention that she got divorced because of her cheating on her husband. He let the first time slide, but after she admitted to the second offense he sent her packing....
 
Is there pattern here or some type of regular behavior you see happening.It seems she does not give a rats *** about anyone,or any thing.Words or a contract,mean ****,does what she wants,when she wants, after saying that she wants this person only,then screws around on him,DUH.Like dude,what else do you need to know here about 110% trouble.Strap her down to a couch ,and have brain doctor talk to her for about a month or two,too see what the problem is,other than that,keep her from getting any where near 15 miles of your house,or you.Maybe this is great if you intend NEVER to settle down,and I am sure there are a few males here that are the same,but if you got more miles on you than a 65 chevy,and every one in town knows it,get out of dodge fast,and leave the good people alone to be happy,mrmopartech
 
Is there pattern here or some type of regular behavior you see happening.It seems she does not give a rats *** about anyone,or any thing.Words or a contract,mean ****,does what she wants,when she wants, after saying that she wants this person only,then screws around on him,DUH.Like dude,what else do you need to know here about 110% trouble.Strap her down to a couch ,and have brain doctor talk to her for about a month or two,too see what the problem is,other than that,keep her from getting any where near 15 miles of your house,or you.Maybe this is great if you intend NEVER to settle down,and I am sure there are a few males here that are the same,but if you got more miles on you than a 65 chevy,and every one in town knows it,get out of dodge fast,and leave the good people alone to be happy,mrmopartech
It is pretty much her regular behavior. She was living on the Western side of Washington, we live near Spokane. But since she has quit her job she moved to Phoenix to be with Chapalito. She keeps talking about settling down, but apparently is not very serious about it. I also have failed to mention that the city job she walked out on, she was only working 4 hours a day. However, she had an active workmans comp claim and she was getting comped for the other 4. Anyway, she sees nothing wrong with her behavior. Somebody had mentioned perhaps abandonment issues. I talked to my wife about this today. There Dad was a Field worker. Often was gone during the week, but always home on the weekends. Most summers they would spend a month or so with him, near one of the Farms he was working. Several summers, he would take a month or so off from work and take everyone down to where he grew up, near Mexico City. She honestly does not think she is like this due to anything from there upbringing. Like I said earlier, I have had very little contact with her, but my impression of her is she is very phony. She is trying to lose her past, more like her heritage. There Dad was first generation out of Mexico. My wife, Ernie and her other sister are proud of who they are, and where they are from, where this sister is not. From what I have known of her, she has never been religious. But Chapaltio is a apparently a religious church going typr of guy, so know every time she emails/calls Ernie she is quoting the bible. From what little my wife knows of Chapalito, he is far from an upstanding type of guy. He is known to use girlfriends for what he can and then just kind of toss them aside. Wife had made mention of one of his previous Girlfriends putting up the money for a deposit on the new car, and once the furnacing was taken care of he sent her packing......maybe a rotten thing for me to say, hell maybe not because my wife has said it also, but maybe in some sick sort of way they deserve each other.
 
Hey Ink, don't forget that this is your wife's sister. When the latest drama blows over, or blows up, she will still be her blood. No matter how stupid or irrisponsible, try, really try not to beat on her too hard. It's her life to jack up, and one day she and your wife may get through this and end up really close. Just try not to say anything that cannot be forgotten and forgiven (by your wife).
Good luck with it, and try to avoid the fallout as best you can!
 
Hey Ink, don't forget that this is your wife's sister. When the latest drama blows over, or blows up, she will still be her blood. No matter how stupid or irrisponsible, try, really try not to beat on her too hard. It's her life to jack up, and one day she and your wife may get through this and end up really close. Just try not to say anything that cannot be forgotten and forgiven (by your wife).
Good luck with it, and try to avoid the fallout as best you can!
That is the thing, there is always a next drama with her. I more or less keep my mouth shut, and I do try to watch what I say. Ernie's comments about her sister are from the hip, that is just the way she is. And she expects the same from me. The fallout.....Ernies sister has said these 2 are fighting on a regular basis and she is already talking about tossing him out. We are 1500 miles away, there is another blood sister that lives in Phoenix, so I sure if things go south Ernies other sister will bear the brunt of it. What makes this a challenge for me is my family background, we were far from a close knit family. Our family more or less fell apart. Long boo hoo story, but due to this story I was unaware my Dad had died until after the fact. And I found out that my mom had died when I got a letter from a lawyer about her will. My sister and I had a major falling out, and thanks to this I became the outcast, more or less, of my family. I have not spoken to my sister in the last 8 or 9 years. Last time I seen her she was in a convience store by my house, I walked in when she was at the counter and she took off running out the door with the people she with saying there is my psycho brother. And if I have my way I will never speak to her again. Not to sound corny, but other than my wife and this damn pc connecting me to you guys I have no family........
 
Well, you know what tools we can be, so try not to screw things up with your wife's family for God's sake!

Sounds like you already know the drill and are taking precautions.
 
If your not trying to fix her (you cant) then what is the question?1 is she a slut(yes)2does she have mental problems(yes)Can you or your wife help her(no).Its all up to her to get somebody to help her.Ive been through this with my sister and no matter what anyone says or does she is always right.Most likley she is on pain killers ar some type of drugs(just a guess)
 
Somebody had mentioned perhaps abandonment issues. I talked to my wife about this today. There Dad was a Field worker. Often was gone during the week, but always home on the weekends. Most summers they would spend a month or so with him, near one of the Farms he was working. Several summers, he would take a month or so off from work and take everyone down to where he grew up, near Mexico City.

I mentioned the abandonment issues and this is almost a textbook scenario of what can generate them, especially in young children who don't fully understand why dad can't be around all the time. They don't understand that dad needs to make a living. They only understand that dad's not here when they skin their knee or needed a bicycle tire fixed, or he's not around to explain why a boyfriend blew off a date to hang with his buddies... or just be around for a hug every so often.


From what little my wife knows of Chapalito, he is far from an upstanding type of guy. He is known to use girlfriends for what he can and then just kind of toss them aside. Wife had made mention of one of his previous Girlfriends putting up the money for a deposit on the new car, and once the furnacing was taken care of he sent her packing.

This is the exact type of "a**hole" guy I spoke of in my earlier post. I suspect this relationship is based on orgasms and will quicky fall to the wayside when she finds another a**hole who can give her a better pickle tickle than Chapalito, if she hasn't already because of the picture incident.
 
I mentioned the abandonment issues and this is almost a textbook scenario of what can generate them, especially in young children who don't fully understand why dad can't be around all the time. They don't understand that dad needs to make a living. They only understand that dad's not here when they skin their knee or needed a bicycle tire fixed, or he's not around to explain why a boyfriend blew off a date to hang with his buddies... or just be around for a hug every so often.




This is the exact type of "a**hole" guy I spoke of in my earlier post. I suspect this relationship is based on orgasms and will quicky fall to the wayside when she finds another a**hole who can give her a better pickle tickle than Chapalito, if she hasn't already because of the picture incident.
My wife is pretty sure that her sisters issues are not from abandonment issues, but it is purely just her opioion, more than likely based oh how she feels. Funny you should mention the sexual aspect of things. When all of this stuff first transpired that was the very first thing that Socorho told Ernie was how great he was in bed. One of the few times I have been around both my wife and her sister at the same time I did hear her say that if her boyfriend does not rock her world sexually, he is sent packing. I appreciate your thoughtful input.....
 
If your not trying to fix her (you cant) then what is the question?1 is she a slut(yes)2does she have mental problems(yes)Can you or your wife help her(no).Its all up to her to get somebody to help her.Ive been through this with my sister and no matter what anyone says or does she is always right.Most likley she is on pain killers ar some type of drugs(just a guess)
What is with your apparent attitude? Is it perhaps your lack of comprehnsion? I never said I was trying to fix her. My wife and I were talking about her and she asked me to start a thread here, to get the opinions of others. If you have a problem with this thread, which based upon both of your responses you do, JUST DON'T READ IT!!! You are on here for less than a month and already you are coming off as an asshole......
 
My wife is pretty sure that her sisters issues are not from abandonment issues, but it is purely just her opioion, more than likely based oh how she feels. Funny you should mention the sexual aspect of things. When all of this stuff first transpired that was the very first thing that Socorho told Ernie was how great he was in bed. One of the few times I have been around both my wife and her sister at the same time I did hear her say that if her boyfriend does not rock her world sexually, he is sent packing. I appreciate your thoughtful input.....

Her attitudes and expectations about her sexual partners wasn't hard to guess. I'm also sure that most therapists will tell you that sex isn't always about sex.
 
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