63 Dodge Dart, now let me see;)
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Sitting in the United lounge, the airport is crammed, how I hate it
Got home last night, so nice to be home;) Killer6 had sent the correct engine support bracket!! 
Wow! Then I loaded the engine on the engine run stand on to my truck, then go to get belts at NAPA later today(didn't happen), I don't want to do like I did last time and buy a bunch of belts~ it was easy to load with my crane. hm, still kind of tired from the trip, did I mention I don't like traveling? I don't like crowds, airports, TSA, etc., so maybe tomorrow I can see about finish wiring the slant, then see what happens when I turn the key to start. Always kind of nerve racking to me.
ok, going to get Chewie, our mini-aussie.
be back soon
dne';)
Wow! Then I loaded the engine on the engine run stand on to my truck, then go to get belts at NAPA later today(didn't happen), I don't want to do like I did last time and buy a bunch of belts~ it was easy to load with my crane. hm, still kind of tired from the trip, did I mention I don't like traveling? I don't like crowds, airports, TSA, etc., so maybe tomorrow I can see about finish wiring the slant, then see what happens when I turn the key to start. Always kind of nerve racking to me.ok, going to get Chewie, our mini-aussie.
be back soon
dne';)
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JDMopar
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I'm glad to see you got home safe and sound. I'm right there with you on the traveling stuff, and crowds. Last time my wife and I flew, it was the return trip from Hawaii in 2003. We had to sit near the rudest, most obnoxious family of people I have ever seen in my life. Loud, rude, had a 6 hour farting contest, and absolutely trashed their seating area with tater chip bags and droppings from all sorts of food they brought on board. That was 21 years ago, so I can't even imagine how much worse it is today with the way people have gotten. 
I keep an old belt that is real long, and that I cut open. I use it to measure lengths on oddball stuff. Last time I used it was to measure a belt to just go around the crank pulley and water pump pulley with no adjuster, when we ran my 273 on the dyno.
I keep an old belt that is real long, and that I cut open. I use it to measure lengths on oddball stuff. Last time I used it was to measure a belt to just go around the crank pulley and water pump pulley with no adjuster, when we ran my 273 on the dyno.
Tie it in GOOD! Don't let nothin happen to that purdy girl!
HI! Took the engine to NAPA, glad I did, took a bunch of tries to get the belts right. Though I've got the power steering belt, can't connect it, if I had a pressure hose, I could route it back to the reservoir to see if it works or at least flows/pumps. meh, Also stopped by a local muffler shop for a length of exhaust pipe, the guy charged me 10 bucks, I though sure he'd give it to me, then he make the slip on part too big, so I welded the pipe on. mmm, blasted the choke, drilled out the old stud. I don't have the connector clip for the choke.
The engine is full of break in oil plus the Zinc additive. I put as much oil down the oil pump, about a 1/2 quart. Turned the engine via starter without plugs. Turns over good, was hoping to see oil gauge show pressure(mechanical gauge)(not). Loosened the rear most valve train bolt and oil does come up, nothing spectacular. Hoping that when it runs oil pressure will go up and rockers get oiled.
hm, waiting for another belt adjuster like I did on the AC. The Alt belt isn't quite tight enough.
I pulled the distributor, and #1 plug, grounded the plug. With the distributor in hand, I could turn the distributor gear and get a spark for #1.
I guess that's it for now~ got to get dinner going;)
dne'
The engine is full of break in oil plus the Zinc additive. I put as much oil down the oil pump, about a 1/2 quart. Turned the engine via starter without plugs. Turns over good, was hoping to see oil gauge show pressure(mechanical gauge)(not). Loosened the rear most valve train bolt and oil does come up, nothing spectacular. Hoping that when it runs oil pressure will go up and rockers get oiled.
hm, waiting for another belt adjuster like I did on the AC. The Alt belt isn't quite tight enough.
I pulled the distributor, and #1 plug, grounded the plug. With the distributor in hand, I could turn the distributor gear and get a spark for #1.
I guess that's it for now~ got to get dinner going;)
dne'
It will take SEVERAL seconds for you to see oil pressure on the gauge. As long as you were liberal with assembly lube, don't sweat it. I'd say if no oil pressure by 20 seconds, kill it.
Oh, yeah, I slathered the pre-lube most generously;)
UNTIL it gets oil pressure on the gauge, I would vary the RPM down low between like 1500 and 2000. Once it gets pressure on the gauge, IMMEDIATELY get the RPM up over 2500. Low RPM won't hurt it those first few seconds before it gets pressure.
Oh and right before initial startup, dump oil all over the rockers, shaft and pushrods.
How long to I keep it at 2500-3000? rpms (if all goes well)
Bout 15 minutes. Only reason I say low RPM till it gets pressure is because slants are difficult to prime the oil pump. Without a prime, there can be air trapped. If it hangs up and does not get oil pressure in no more than 20 seconds, if you're at lower RPM, you've done no damage. But once it gets pressure, zing in on up to 2500-3500. I usually go on up to 4000 varying between 2500-4000. It's all about oil splash. That's the only way the lifters are lubed until it gets pressure. The lifters don't see any pressurized oil, all they get is dripping off the pushrods, and it doesn't get there for a few seconds.
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Now that's a great explanation!! so glad you informed me;)
Soooo, what do I do about the valve adjustments while the engine is singing between 25-3500rpms? Can I adjust the valves during this break in time?
Those tiny bicycle rachet straps scare me, I guarantee they are nowhere rated for what you are doing, you need a good set of at least 2" wide straps.Got home last night, so nice to be home;) Killer6 had sent the correct engine support bracket!!
ok, going to get Chewie, our mini-aussie.
be back soon
dne';)
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JDMopar
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She had like 8 of them on there. It wasn't going anywhere unless she went 4 wheelin during the short trip to NAPA. Besides...it looks like it was in a Tundra, so how fast could she really go?! 
The fact that you were not able to get oil pressure bothers me. I use a drill and a priming "rod" that slips into the oil pump. I won't stop until the motor in the drill wants to burn up. Jus' sayin'. I'd go back and try again. Don't fire it dry.
Gee guys, I'm pretty good at doing stuff~ I had some large ratchet straps that weren't visible in the pics. All went well.
As for the oil pressure, can't use the rod like in a small block mopar to prime to pump. I'll just use common sense like and follow Rusty's advice.
dne'
As for the oil pressure, can't use the rod like in a small block mopar to prime to pump. I'll just use common sense like and follow Rusty's advice.
dne'
Nothing. Adjust the valves cold before you do the initial break in. It will be fine. Then you can readjust as needed. Opinions vary greatly on this. I've been doing this since 1974 and I have never and will never adjust valves on a running hot engine. Ain't happenin. I adjust cold and let it ride and I've never had an issue.
You cannot do that on a slant 6. The oil pump is driven gear to gear directly off the camshaft.
Tell you what you CAN do regarding the oiling situation. RIGHT before you fire it off, you can pour some oil into the small hole in the oil filter mount. Not the center hole, the small hole off to the side. That's as close as you can come to priming it now.
3forty
"Raw Power"
Are you sure 1974?
yes
3forty
"Raw Power"
Maybe you,but RRR, at 9 or 10 years old.
As for oil prime, I take the cover off and pack the oil pump with Vaseline petroleum jelly.
As for the valves, adjust cold about +.002 which won't hurt anything. After cam break-in and adjustments made you can idle it down and adjust the valves hot and running or by turning the engine and re-adjust the valves.
As for the valves, adjust cold about +.002 which won't hurt anything. After cam break-in and adjustments made you can idle it down and adjust the valves hot and running or by turning the engine and re-adjust the valves.
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